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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Have a look at The Extinct Track Archive: http://www.racesimcentral.net/

The main gig is RIR, and I have a few pics of the race you speak of. The
updated
shots will be available this weekend (busy bee lately), but the pics there
now are quite
good, and should get those memories flowing!

I currently have well over 100 pics of various events at RIR, and a few
dozen from OMS
(Ontario), most of which were provided by a friend who once marshaled both
tracks, and
who is also a professional photographer...Not quick with the updates, but
I hope you
enjoy the site nonetheless. =)

Cheers!

Marc

> > PCGamer has an article on Trans Am Racing and the cars are at
> > Riverside. I
> > passed up a chance to race at Riverside just before it closed so now
> > maybe I
> > can try it in a sim.
> > Lutrell,
> > Dsr#74 :-)
> > http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> I ran the last SCCA race in July, 1988 at Riverside in GT1. Lost the
> motor in qualifying but got some in car video of the long cource.

> Really looking forward to the Trans Am sim. Hope GPL hasn't spoiled me
> too much.

> Marty

--
Marc J. Nelson
The Sim Project - http://www.racesimcentral.net/
Extinct Track Archive - http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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by **Todd Hecke** » Thu, 15 Oct 1998 04:00:00

>Thank you all for the great response to my post, particularly to Todd; nice
>to see the developers keeping an eye on the NG.

You're quite welcome. I'm trying to spend as much time as possible staying
up to date with the newsgroup. Things are pretty hectic right now so please
excuse the occasional lapses. Feel free to send me e-mail directly if
anybody has specific questions; I'll do my best to respond as quickly as
possible.

As a current owner of a '70 Boss 302 and a '69 Grande with the factory 351W
4bbl (vinyl roof and all, what a sleeper), not to mention past ownership of
at least four other Mustangs (including a '70 Mach 1 351C 4bbl) I know
EXACTLY what noise you're talking about. To be honest, give me the raspy,
throaty rumble of an American V8 at full song, or even at idle (especially
with a nice rumpity-rump) over that sewing-machine Ferrari sound any day.
Now, about that Camaro... ;^)

Todd

by **Marty U'Re** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

> On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:54:26 -0500,

> >To be honest, give me the raspy,
> >throaty rumble of an American V8 at full song, or even at idle
> (especially
> >with a nice rumpity-rump) over that sewing-machine Ferrari sound any
> day.

> Sewing machine Ferrari sound? Let me tell you a story. I was at the
> 1969 Daytona 24 hours. I was on a pit crew and was down in the pit
> area
> inside the tri-oval. When the P3 Ferrari's would come by, (about 40
> yards away),
> it would take the breath out of your lungs. You would be talking to
> someone and
> it suddenly would be like your breath couldn't get any traction.. :)

> It would make you sputter and cough.... Your ears didn't fare any
> better.. :)

> I was also at the next-to last U.S. GP at Phoenix. When any of the
> F1's would come by, the sound was like an icepick in your ear.
> Particularly
> the Ferrari's which were driven that year by Mansell and Prost. It was

> *impossible* to not use earplugs IMO. They were selling them for $1
> walking
> through the stands just like a coca-cola vendor.

> For what its worth, I have been around racecars of *all* kinds, all of

> my 55 years and the two most *painful* sounds are funny cars/top fuel
> and those G*D DAMN Ferraris............

> --
> // rrevved at some ISP which calls itself mindspring dot com //

I remember being at the U.S. G.P.s at Long Beach and Phoenix and
there was one car with a sound worse than the Ferrari. I think it was
the V12 Matra.

Marty

by **Todd Hecke** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

>For what its worth, I have been around racecars of *all* kinds, all of
>my 55 years and the two most *painful* sounds are funny cars/top fuel
>and those G*D DAMN Ferraris............

Great story! To be honest, I love the sound of any kind of high-performance
machinery - painful or not. I'll admit I was trolling a bit with that
statement, but it was worth the result. I'm a bit biased - I've been around
V8's all my life. I promise to do 50 laps in the Ferrari at Monaco as
punishment! :o)

Todd

by **Marc J. Nelso** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I know exactly how you felt...The one sound that really gets my hair on end is the
Rolls Royce powered P51 Mustangs! =)

> Sewing machine Ferrari sound? Let me tell you a story. I was at the
> 1969 Daytona 24 hours. I was on a pit crew and was down in the pit area
> inside the tri-oval. When the P3 Ferrari's would come by, (about 40 yards away),
> it would take the breath out of your lungs. You would be talking to someone and
> it suddenly would be like your breath couldn't get any traction.. :)

--
Marc J. Nelson
The Sim Project - http://www.simproject.com/
Extinct Track Archive - http://www.simproject.com/eta/

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by **Harald Boer** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Hi all,

Sometime ago I made a homepage (just for the fun of it) with MP3 motorsports
sound. I never announced it publicly, because I was allowed a homepage there
if it caused not too much strain. Anyway if ya wanna hear a 1994 Ferrari V12
and others sounds like a Ford GT40 or Lola T70 go here: http://www.boers.com

cheers,
Harald

by **Bruce Kennewel** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Internal combustion (as well as steam) engines are called exactly
that..."engines".

"Motors" are operated by electricity.

> but if you love the sound of motors, it is
> incredible.

--
Regards,
Bruce.
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by **Alan J. Claff** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

> For what its worth, I have been around racecars of *all* kinds, all of
> my 55 years and the two most *painful* sounds are funny cars/top fuel
> and those G*D DAMN Ferraris............

When I was younger and stupider I was in the paddock of Road Atlanta for
the SCCA Runoffs and standing right next to Jeff Miller's Kohler-powered
CSR or DSR car as they were firing it up and getting it up to temperature.
I think that probably did as much damage to my hearing as any other racing
car or venue before or since.

Ob Trans-Am Sim requests: Please please please (and I don't beg often)
include Lime Rock Park, and as a less important suggestion, don't forget
the small-bore racers even if they have to be included as a later
expansion pack.

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by **Pat Dotso** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

> Internal combustion (as well as steam) engines are called exactly
> that..."engines".

> "Motors" are operated by electricity.

Yea, as in General Motors. We only make
electric cars.

--
Pat Dotson
IMPACT Motorsports
http://www.impactmotorsports.com/pd.html

by **Marc J. Nelso** » Fri, 16 Oct 1998 04:00:00

No, any device that converts energy into mechanical energy is a motor.

> Internal combustion (as well as steam) engines are called exactly
> that..."engines".

> "Motors" are operated by electricity.

Cheers!

Marc

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by **Paul Jone** » Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Websters definition of motor:
motor, n.
1. a comparatively small and powerful engine, esp. an
internal-combustion engine in an automobile, motorboat, or the like.
2. any self-powered vehicle.
3. a person or thing that imparts motion, esp. a contrivance, as a steam
engine, that receives and modifies energy from some natural source in
order to utilize it in driving machinery.
4. Also called electric motor. Elect. a machine that converts electrical
energy into mechanical energy, as an induction motor.
5. motors, stocks or bonds in automobile companies.
adj.
6. pertaining to or operated by a motor.
7. of, for, by, or pertaining to motor vehicles: motor freight.
8. designed or for automobiles, their drivers, or their passengers: The
hotel has a motor lobby in its parking garage for picking up and
discharging passengers.
9. causing or producing motion.
10. Physiol. conveying an impulse that results or tends to result in
motion, as a nerve.
11. Psychol., Physiol. Also, motoric. of, pertaining to, or involving
muscular movement: a motor response; motor images.
v.i.
12. to ride or travel in an automobile; drive: They motored up the
coast.
v.t.
Paul

> Internal combustion (as well as steam) engines are called exactly
> that..."engines".

> "Motors" are operated by electricity.

> > but if you love the sound of motors, it is
> > incredible.

> --
> Regards,
> Bruce.
> ----------

by **joh..** » Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:00:00

>On Wed, 14 Oct 1998 19:54:26 -0500,

>>To be honest, give me the raspy,
>>throaty rumble of an American V8 at full song, or even at idle (especially
>>with a nice rumpity-rump) over that sewing-machine Ferrari sound any day.

>Sewing machine Ferrari sound? Let me tell you a story. I was at the
>1969 Daytona 24 hours. I was on a pit crew and was down in the pit area
>inside the tri-oval. When the P3 Ferrari's would come by, (about 40 yards away),
>it would take the breath out of your lungs. You would be talking to someone and
>it suddenly would be like your breath couldn't get any traction.. :)

>It would make you sputter and cough.... Your ears didn't fare any better.. :)

>I was also at the next-to last U.S. GP at Phoenix. When any of the
>F1's would come by, the sound was like an icepick in your ear. Particularly
>the Ferrari's which were driven that year by Mansell and Prost. It was
>*impossible* to not use earplugs IMO. They were selling them for $1 walking
>through the stands just like a coca-cola vendor.

>For what its worth, I have been around racecars of *all* kinds, all of
>my 55 years and the two most *painful* sounds are funny cars/top fuel
>and those G*D DAMN Ferraris............

BUT the real music was the big block V8 Can Am cars of the late 60
and in early 70. The ground shook when they went by you at Road
America.....They were something else like I have never seen or heard
since then!

John

by **Rik Ryal** » Sat, 17 Oct 1998 04:00:00

Heh-heh! Small potatoes or large potatoes? Owned a '70 Mach1 myself; had a
Doug Nash 5 speed in it mated to a, erm, "warm" 351C. Unfortunately, It
argued with a tree coming in the opposite direction :-(

I guess it's a Trans-Atlantic thing, but I've never been too bothered
about the whole Ford/GM thing; great cars are great cars regardless of the
badge they wear ;-) The Camaro was originally a six-pot stocker but wound
up as a road-race spec animal with 355cu in of tightly-wound small block and
another Doug Nash box. This kiddy had every trick bit of kit Guldstrand and
Moog could come up with together with a set of 18" rims and sticky Yokohama
***. Man, how those Porsche drivers hated being blasted by Detroit iron!

I also spent about two years as "NOS-man" crewing a Pro-Mod Olds Cutlass
which had a 640-something (it kept getting bigger!) cu-in motor and vast
quantities of N2O. We set the European record in it at one point with a
6.98; man that was fun. That beast had an /awesome/ idle sound breathing in
through a pair of split, highly modified Dominators and out through the 6"
collector headers! :-)

Best Regards, Rik.

<<<Snip>>>

by **Harald Boer** » Sun, 18 Oct 1998 04:00:00

I've seen these cars a couple of times at Zandvoort (1995/1997) in the
International Supersport Series. When those cars took of with a rolling
start, it's the most amazing thing I've ever heard. The whole grandstand
seems to be shaking of that *** thunder! Those exhaust are that big, you
can put your arms in! They have also incredible rear tires and huge inlets.
If these boys ever comes to a track in your area go and see it!!!

Cheers,

Harald

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