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OT - stopping sequential ads

Destro

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Destro » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 07:54:19

As a matter of fact that is indeed the site that prompted this post.

> Sounds like SOMEONE is annoyed with ign.com!

> -SSZ

hoy.DontSpa..

OT - stopping sequential ads

by hoy.DontSpa.. » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 08:33:02



:>
:>
:>>Those that throw up full page pop-up ads to make money, instead of the
:>>next page of information as requested.  We are web site visitors, not an
:>>income base.  Everything doesn't have to be about making freakin' $$.
:>
:>
:> Who pays for the web site development?
:>

: Not our problem.  The web used to be about the *free* exchange of
: information.  Non-intrusive banner ads are ok if you need some income,
: but these commercial bastards trying to ***all us for $$ are full of
: shit.

Who's forcing you to get information from this banner-heavy site?  

--
hoy xatx hawaii xdotx education

adam conno

OT - stopping sequential ads

by adam conno » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 09:31:55



>> Try pop up killer.
>> small/free and you can use the Alt key to let through what you want.
>> http://www.panicware.com/product_pshelp.html

>Waugh.  That program is like killing mosquitos with a bazooka.  I did
>actually use it for a while; it's better than nothing, but having to
>play the "control key" game whenever I launch a new IE window got very
>annoying (almost as annoying as the popups :)  In addition, the popups
>still were created; PopupStopper just closed them quickly (so they were
>still distracting).

>I now push Proxomitron (http://www.spamblocked.com/proxomitron/download.html)
>It takes a small bit of configuring (and blocks way too many things by
>default), but it's extremely powerful and very "forget it's even
>running" once it's configured properly.

Why not just use mozilla? (www.mozilla.org) It blocks
pop-ups/pop-unders fine.
Asbj?rn Bj?rnst

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Asbj?rn Bj?rnst » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 20:11:24




> >> Oh, you can't afford the time?  You don't have the resources?  You feel
> >> others should sacrifice their time and effort to maintain a website and pay
> >> for the bandwidth, just not you?

> >Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
> >customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
> >trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
> >*everything* has to be $$.

> Oh, I see, you're a customer!  From your original post I thought you
> were just a random freeloader.

Ahem.
Pet peeve:
So if he didn't block the ads he would pay for the resources used?
Could have fooled me, I thought the costs were offloaded on some
innocent third party that happens to buy the wares that are being
advertised. Billions of dollars are spent on advertising every year,
yet noone has charged me for looking at any ads yet, I wonder where
the money comes from.
--
  -asbjxrn
Gerry Qui

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Gerry Qui » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 21:32:56






>> >> Oh, you can't afford the time?  You don't have the resources?  You feel
>> >> others should sacrifice their time and effort to maintain a website and
> pay
>> >> for the bandwidth, just not you?

>> >Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
>> >customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
>> >trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
>> >*everything* has to be $$.

>> Oh, I see, you're a customer!  From your original post I thought you
>> were just a random freeloader.

>Ahem.
>Pet peeve:
>So if he didn't block the ads he would pay for the resources used?

I never said that (and actually the ads were unblockable). The point is
that he implied that he was one of a 'customer base'.  

For a website that shows ads, the money comes from the company making a
product.  For the company making the product, the money comes from
customers.  The customers pay the company because they have found out
about the product and would prefer having it to the money they would
otherwise retain.  Simple enough for you?

As for the costs being off-loaded, it's quite possible that economies of
scale coming from having more customers pay for the ads - indeed, it
might be that without advertising the product would not exist.  Also,
customers who learn about the product from ads benefit from them.

- Gerry Quinn

gary colliga

OT - stopping sequential ads

by gary colliga » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 00:11:22

Went to the link, but they say Webwasher does not work on WinXP

Earth Ange

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Earth Ange » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 02:06:30


yep they do say that - but it works fine for me - only trick is not have it
on auto browser setup - then it works correctly regardless of OS.

Mark Blunde

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Mark Blunde » Sun, 07 Jul 2002 20:21:56





> >>Those that throw up full page pop-up ads to make money, instead of the
> >>next page of information as requested.  We are web site visitors, not an
> >>income base.  Everything doesn't have to be about making freakin' $$.

> > Who pays for the web site development?

> Not our problem.  The web used to be about the *free* exchange of
> information.  Non-intrusive banner ads are ok if you need some income,
> but these commercial bastards trying to ***all us for $$ are full of
> shit.

> And people wonder why there are so many anti-capitalists around!  :-)

Adverts haven't become more instrusive because sites want to make more
money, they're more instrusive because the old-style ones make them less
money than they used to.

Non-intrusive ads don't pay sites anything like as well as they used to,
because advertisers finally cottoned onto the fact that nobody clicks on
them. These days, a commercial site can't support itself on simple banner
ads - not if it's providing the range of news and services most people
expect of a decent game site.

And if visitors aren't a site's income base, what is?

--
Mark.

* Never cross the streams!

Internet Use

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Internet Use » Sat, 20 Jul 2002 21:05:17


> I see this happening more and more on different web sites.

> You go to a site page 1. Read it. Then click on the 'next' button to
> advance to page 2.

> BUT.....before you get to page 2, a web page (in that same window not a
> separate window) with nothing but a single big ad and a 'continue'
> button, shows up.

> You are then forced to click on the 'continue' button to finally advance
> to page 2 of the article.

> Any way to by pass this? It's becoming annoying as hell.

I suggest everyone run Proxomitron:

        http://www.spamblocked.com/proxomitron/

You can find more info and some fairly remarkable filters here:

        http://asp.flaaten.dk/pforum/

This thing will completely rewrite web pages on the fly.  You can add
your own toolbars, remove ads, reply with false cookies, cloak your
browser, just about anything can be done.


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