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OT - stopping sequential ads

Uncle Feste

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:30:07




>>Those that throw up full page pop-up ads to make money, instead of the
>>next page of information as requested.  We are web site visitors, not an
>>income base.  Everything doesn't have to be about making freakin' $$.

> Then it's simple - start your own website! What's the problem?

> Oh, you can't afford the time?  You don't have the resources?  You feel
> others should sacrifice their time and effort to maintain a website and pay
> for the bandwidth, just not you?

Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
*everything* has to be $$.

--

Fester

Earth Ange

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Earth Ange » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 06:54:15


(http://www.spamblocked.com/proxomitron/download.html)

Webwasher all the way for me (www.webwasher.com) Incredibly easy to use and
wonderfully effective (and free for home use)

Sith Lor

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Sith Lor » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 07:05:43


>On Tue, 02 Jul 2002 19:10:40 +0100, Whilst waiting for the hammer to


>>>Check out Adsubtract.  http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>>nice link, it pops up a ***y advert :-)

>ROTFLMAO :O

>Try pop up killer.
>small/free and you can use the Alt key to let through what you want.
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/
>HTH :O)

Thanks, I'll give that a go.

--
(A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer

S.SubZer

OT - stopping sequential ads

by S.SubZer » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 07:17:30

Sounds like SOMEONE is annoyed with ign.com!

-SSZ

coffeesavan

OT - stopping sequential ads

by coffeesavan » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 14:55:38




> >Or do like any veteran surfer and turn off ActiveX, Javascript, and
plugins,
> >or use a browser like Opera or Mozilla.  Then view the source code
and look
> >for the value referenced by the input button.  Then browse to the
top of the
> >source and locate it's http ref in the javascript.  If it's CGI
access, then
> >download the actual .cgi file with a download manager, then view it
as a
> >text file and look at the "id" values.  They usually have a number
tied to a
> >URL in the .cgi file.  If it's a referral to server type thing,
you're
> >screwed.

> Wouldn't it just be faster to simply hit "continue" on the ad page
> than go thru this long drawn out process? lol

But if you do that, then the terrorists have already won.
Christoph Nah

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Christoph Nah » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 15:57:01



I love those little Usenet kids pretending to be "businessmen"...

So exactly what would be that mystical "customer base" that a website
should be generating goodwill for?  Do you think only software
publishers and other companies that sell goods other than web page
content should be running websites?  I don't suppose your tiny mind
noticed but that's exactly what you've just proposed...
--
http://www.kynosarges.de

Gerry Qui

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Gerry Qui » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 18:52:31



>> Oh, you can't afford the time?  You don't have the resources?  You feel
>> others should sacrifice their time and effort to maintain a website and pay
>> for the bandwidth, just not you?

>Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
>customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
>trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
>*everything* has to be $$.

Oh, I see, you're a customer!  From your original post I thought you
were just a random freeloader.

- Gerry Quinn

Spam Filte

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Spam Filte » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:27:22




>>Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
>>customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
>>trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
>>*everything* has to be $$.

> I love those little Usenet kids pretending to be "businessmen"...

> So exactly what would be that mystical "customer base" that a website
> should be generating goodwill for?  Do you think only software
> publishers and other companies that sell goods other than web page
> content should be running websites?  I don't suppose your tiny mind
> noticed but that's exactly what you've just proposed...

Get a grip Nahr! Next you'll be claiming we can drop the pretense that
subscriptions are profitable!
Sith Lor

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Sith Lor » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 19:32:48

On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 05:55:38 GMT, "coffeesavant"




>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:20:34 -0400, "Flakk"


>> >Or do like any veteran surfer and turn off ActiveX, Javascript, and
>plugins,
>> >or use a browser like Opera or Mozilla.  Then view the source code
>and look
>> >for the value referenced by the input button.  Then browse to the
>top of the
>> >source and locate it's http ref in the javascript.  If it's CGI
>access, then
>> >download the actual .cgi file with a download manager, then view it
>as a
>> >text file and look at the "id" values.  They usually have a number
>tied to a
>> >URL in the .cgi file.  If it's a referral to server type thing,
>you're
>> >screwed.

>> Wouldn't it just be faster to simply hit "continue" on the ad page
>> than go thru this long drawn out process? lol

>But if you do that, then the terrorists have already won.

Only if you take notice of the ad an act on it and buy the product
they're peddling.

--
(A)bort, (R)etry, (I)nfluence with large hammer

Uncle Feste

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 21:19:54




>>>Oh, you can't afford the time?  You don't have the resources?  You feel
>>>others should sacrifice their time and effort to maintain a website and pay
>>>for the bandwidth, just not you?

>>Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
>>customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
>>trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
>>*everything* has to be $$.

> Oh, I see, you're a customer!  From your original post I thought you
> were just a random freeloader.

Freeload this.

--

Fester

Uncle Feste

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 21:22:28




>>Ever heard of a loss leader?  Of cultivating goodwill amongst your
>>customer base?  Some businessman you are.  This is why some folks are
>>trying to run the commercial enterprises off the WWW.  They think
>>*everything* has to be $$.

> I love those little Usenet kids pretending to be "businessmen"...

> So exactly what would be that mystical "customer base" that a website
> should be generating goodwill for?  Do you think only software
> publishers and other companies that sell goods other than web page
> content should be running websites?  

Hey Bozo.  How many private personal websites have you seen that run
full page popup (or pop under) ads?  I didn't think so.

--

Fester

Goy Larse

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Goy Larse » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 21:32:48

I don't know why you even bother ...

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

"The Pits"    http://www.theuspits.com/

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
--Groucho Marx--

Christoph Nah

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Christoph Nah » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 22:31:50



Yeah.  And that has exactly what to do with "cultivating goodwill
amongst your customer base?"

See.  It's simple.  You are a customer only if you pay.  If a website
isn't used for promoting other goods besides its own pages then these
pages are all there is to pay for.  And you pay either by looking at
intrusive ads or by buying a subscription.  Refuse both options, and
you're no longer a customer.  You don't pay for the website, hence
you're just a random freeloader, like Gerry Quinn said.
--
http://www.kynosarges.de

Uncle Feste

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Uncle Feste » Thu, 04 Jul 2002 23:54:01



> I don't know why you even bother ...

Agreed.  Trying to get thru to the CP's can get frustrating.  Uncle
Fester, over & out on this one.

--

Fester

Steve

OT - stopping sequential ads

by Steve » Fri, 05 Jul 2002 02:07:54



>On Wed, 03 Jul 2002 05:55:38 GMT, "coffeesavant"



>>> On Mon, 1 Jul 2002 20:20:34 -0400, "Flakk"


>>> >Or do like any veteran surfer and turn off ActiveX, Javascript, and
>>plugins,
>>> >or use a browser like Opera or Mozilla.  Then view the source code
>>and look
>>> >for the value referenced by the input button.  Then browse to the
>>top of the
>>> >source and locate it's http ref in the javascript.  If it's CGI
>>access, then
>>> >download the actual .cgi file with a download manager, then view it
>>as a
>>> >text file and look at the "id" values.  They usually have a number
>>tied to a
>>> >URL in the .cgi file.  If it's a referral to server type thing,
>>you're
>>> >screwed.

>>> Wouldn't it just be faster to simply hit "continue" on the ad page
>>> than go thru this long drawn out process? lol

>>But if you do that, then the terrorists have already won.

>Only if you take notice of the ad an act on it and buy the product
>they're peddling.

Exactly.  I'm so used to ignoring ads, on these type of full page ads
they are talking about I hit "continue" without so much of a glance at
whatever product they are peddling.  Until recently pop up ads have
been taken care of with Pop-Up Stopper, so those weren't a problem
either.

The big pain in the ass ads now are the new ones that seem to fly in
from the side about the time you are going to start navigating a site.
My Pop-Up Stopper won't kill those, so hopefully something comes out
soon to deal with them.  I don't want to kill option in IE to disable
this new ad "feature".

Though, can't say I blame the sites.  Not like servers, web
developers, etc. are free.

Steven


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