rec.autos.simulators

 You don't know the facts and your not even close to having a comprehension
of what Tom Pabst and Pabst Racing is doing, or has done in the past for sim
racing in general....and this sim racing community. You also don't know
anything about him or what kind of person he is.  I have known him for more
than three years personally....and professionally, and he is the furthest
thing from a "name dropper" on this planet.  He is also not conceded in any
way and is one of the nicest guys I know.  He's typical of almost everyone
I've ever met in real-world racing......and he's a real-world driver himself
first....a sim racer second!  A perfect example is the fact he almost never
responds to your guy's stupid posts about his "character"....he just laughs
it off.  And, he's provided some of the most helpful posts on tech issues in
sim racing over the years here on RAS that I've ever seen.  What do you two
bonehead's do for this community...besides make these stupid "Pabst Bashing"
posts all the time?

Take at look at these pics that were taken **Monday** at Sears Point.  This
"composite" was prepared by the PR webmaster for "internal distribution"
only.  I am posting it here to prove to you two guys that Pabst-Racing is
for real......and Tom's the sole reason this is happening.

www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/karttestday-composite.jpg

And for you two bonehead's information......there's about 50 "tenant" racing
businesses at Sears Point and in addition to the actual track employees, the
Russell Racing School employees and all the "tenant" race shops
employees....there's about 1400 employees that work at Sears every day.
I've personally sim raced with dozens of them online....and there are a
couple hundred...minimum....who are sim racers!  They just don't all race
online.

Here's proof  that many local drivers of real-world racing are sim racing!
This is another "PR internal distribution" graphic of a party Tom threw two
weeks ago for the 24-hour Rolex race at Daytona to celebrate the start of
the new 2002 racing season.  I personally attended this event....and there
were over 150 people from Sears Point and the local racing community who
attended.  This party cost Tom over $5,000....I saw the bills!  The party
lasted 24-hours from noon on Saturday until noon on Sunday!  You got three
meals (lunch, dinner and breakfast on Sunday), open bar, LAN racing
tournaments all day and night long....and it was all for fun.  Tom
personally
organized this....and paid for it himself.  Take a look:

www.pabst-racing.com/webscreens/2002-party.jpg

If some of you don't know....the white-hair gentleman driving the Lotus-49
sim is Chris Mellon, of M & R Motorsports....who has personally "engineered"
three 24-Hour Rolex race winning cars and engineered more than 20 years of
race cars at this Daytona endurance race.  He's being observed by Brad
Pierce, this year's ACRL champion.  Both of these guys race with us online
all the time.....and they are close friends of Tom's.  See if you can pick
out George Sandman.....or Dave McEntee (ALMS driver) or Chris Hill (ALMS
driver)......in the pics as well....... this is the facts.know the facts
before you make your  bonehead posts on R.A.S.

Like I said, I'll probably get fired.....but I'm really tired of some of
this ***from you two as well as others.

Pissed off.....but feeling better.......

Ken "MAC" McIntosh

Thanks for the info Mac.. I know Tom is a good guy, a passionate
(sim)racer, I've had some good email correspondence and chats with
him.

But Tom also sometimes has an unlucky way of expressing himself, take
that Aliens/Insects discussion for example. So I can imagine if you
don't know Tom and his sense of humour, people can get really pissed
off with those posts.

Uhm.. did he hire those pitbabes too?? Holy crap..
Tom, why wasn't I invited????

Andre

PS Tom, I'm still waiting for an answer on my Ring challenge :)

You've hit the nail on the head there Andre.  With some of the posts that
Tom makes - it's no wonder that myself and other have been SERIOUSLY pissed
off with the guy.

Doug

About Tom's "alleged" (haven't seen much of it myself ;^) ) sense of humor? If a
huge group of the readers think he is serious, he has a monstrous communications
problem. And he should try to rectify it instead of blathering on. Most people
understand that it doesn't matter if you are winking whilst you are writing -
the readers can't see it! You have to be explicit - or blatantly obvious. Most
of the time Tom comes across as a knowledgable and successful jerk. In my
opinion at least.

And that statement really ruined your credibility! It is mainly used when
someone is trying to convey a sense of secrecy and it never works.

/Jens

Rob Swindells

Get stuffed you sycophantic ***. BTW, in that picture you posted a link
to, are those your boots sticking out of Tom's ass?

Yours sneeringly

GDA

Any speculations about hidden motivations etc. are just that - speculation.
Too easy to misinterpret.

OTOH, what's wrong with Gerry's Schumacher comment? Moderate criticism
brought across in good and humorous style.

Achim

Do you remember the time TP commanded us all to stop talking about hot
lapping in VROC chat and Sierra.com? Just in case he might be
'entertaining' some luminary from the real racing world and he didn't
want us to project the 'wrong' image of the sim racing community!

Then there was the 'plastic toys' thread!

Gerry

Unless you personally know Gavel, Gerry and a few others aren't you also
guilty of treating people you don't know poorly? (You called them
"boneheads" and said their posts are stupid).

Do you have all the facts?

Todd

YOU CAN LEAVE NOT GPL COMMUNITY

ALL YOUR SWINDELLS ARE BELONG TO US

HA HA HA HA

Ok, so tell us.

Let's just say he didn't leave a favourable impression with me and many
others on this forum

You've just "dropped" his.

So, why is he trying to mold the community to his real-wold, corporate
projections?

He hasn't responded to serious, well argumented objections which defuse his
theories either.

Possibly, but that doesn't condone him making a nuisance of himself. Tom's
managed to insult a lot of people here and according to some posters, who's
integrity I have no reason to doubt, this is not an isolated occurance over
the years. There is a lot of ill feeling towards him on this forum.

Neither do I see how him spending 5 grand to promote his business and
entertaining a number of people we don't even know makes up for any of the
above.

Ok, some real life racers showed interest in his simulators, but I fail to
see how this raises the profile of the *sport*. Being known as a training
aid to the real thing, isn't very conductive towards general recognition,
IMO.

Jan.
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"Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

Dave C.