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GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

Tomla

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Tomla » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

How much longer must we wait for GP3 to come and save us from the bowels of the
hell which all sim racers are in right now?  F12k would be good if it didn't
have such lousy frame rate and AI.  How come every car locks up their brakes on
every corner even during the formation lap?  My guess is that EA is very proud
of their smoke effects!! :)
Iain Mackenzi

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Iain Mackenzi » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

formation lap? <<
Doesn't happen with me!
BTW, turn smoke (and dust) off to improve frame rates.  Also, turn off
shadows, and mirror detail (but not mirrors).
Iain


Michael E. Carve

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Michael E. Carve » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00


% >>How come every car locks up their brakes on every corner even during the
% formation lap? <<
% Doesn't happen with me!
% BTW, turn smoke (and dust) off to improve frame rates.  Also, turn off
% shadows, and mirror detail (but not mirrors).
% Iain

Would that be because you have smoke turned off? <G>

Or better yet, share your tweaks so others can experience the same
thing.

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ymenar

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by ymenar » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> BTW, turn smoke (and dust) off to improve frame rates

Why should I have to turn off an essential element to racing simulation such
as smoke to have a acceptable framerate?  Does it mean that ISI has problem
with some effects of their game engine?  Will they patch it?

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Don Burnett

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Don Burnett » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Lol, they are bad in that first turn on the starts.
I have to wonder though, how much of a graphics hog will GP3 be?

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Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends


chainbreake

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by chainbreake » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00


I surely do hope GP3 lives up to the hype.  I hate to think about the
increased suicide rate if it doesn't.  :-)

Jerry Morelock

Iain Mackenzi

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Iain Mackenzi » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Don't bother then, it's up to you!
However, I think you'll find that turning down detail like smoke is pretty
normal to get any sim (GPL, GP2, etc.) running acceptably to suit your
system. Stating the obvious, but there is always a trade off with detail and
frame rate - it is up to you how you deal with it.
Iain

Jan Verschuere

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by Jan Verschuere » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Quit honking... Mobil 1 Rally Championship, SBK2000, NFS:PU... and GPL still
alive and kicking. We never had it so good.

Jan.
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Don Burnett

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by Don Burnett » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

It seems to be the way new releases are going these days, lots of eye candy
and graphics hogs, then let the systems catch up to them.
I don't see it as a problem with their game engine, just that they loaded
the graphics up too much for most of today's processors.
Bet you had to turn some GP3 options off to get it to run acceptable as
well? I know I sure did.
Still though, I do fault them for not supporting glide, I think they could
have achieved better results .

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Don Burnette
Dburn in N3 and Legends


Joe6

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by Joe6 » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>It seems to be the way new releases are going these days, lots of eye candy
>and graphics hogs, then let the systems catch up to them.

I guess you haven't played SBK 2000, Let's be honest folks - ISI
doesn't have a vey good graphics engine. Period.

Joe McGinn
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Ryat

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by Ryat » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00



Never had it so good? I am still playing GP2 because there is not
another F1 sim around that is worth spending 80 or 90 dollars on. As for
GPL, it does not incorporate recent championships.

I will not have enough until I get GP3!!

Ryath

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Stephen Ferguso

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by Stephen Ferguso » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Well, with AI races I wouldn't really care, but online it might be a useful
clue about where the guy ahead of you is consistently overdriving the car.
But I imagine this kind of information isn't passed down the pipe anyway,
which would be a shame (the computer I have used for GPL was never potent
enough to display smoke in online races, so I really don't know what it
does).  I guess I've just found a little experiment to do tonight... does
GPL properly display the smoke from your (online) competitors' tires?

Stephen

Remco Moe

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by Remco Moe » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>Well, with AI races I wouldn't really care, but online it might be a useful
>clue about where the guy ahead of you is consistently overdriving the car.
>But I imagine this kind of information isn't passed down the pipe anyway,
>which would be a shame (the computer I have used for GPL was never potent
>enough to display smoke in online races, so I really don't know what it
>does).  I guess I've just found a little experiment to do tonight... does
>GPL properly display the smoke from your (online) competitors' tires?

Yes, GPL does....better yet, it also models dirt, which comes in handy
on Spa, so you can spray some of the dirt in the face of that Lotus
driver behind you <g>

Remco

Stephen Ferguso

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Stephen Ferguso » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00



> >Well, with AI races I wouldn't really care, but online it might be a
useful
> >clue about where the guy ahead of you is consistently overdriving the
car.
> >But I imagine this kind of information isn't passed down the pipe anyway,
> >which would be a shame (the computer I have used for GPL was never potent
> >enough to display smoke in online races, so I really don't know what it
> >does).  I guess I've just found a little experiment to do tonight... does
> >GPL properly display the smoke from your (online) competitors' tires?

> Yes, GPL does....better yet, it also models dirt, which comes in handy
> on Spa, so you can spray some of the dirt in the face of that Lotus
> driver behind you <g>

> Remco

Beefy Eagle kicks sand in the face of Lotus 98lb weakling.  Ha.  Oh man...
then my friend really needs to upgrade his PC (I'm a notebook user) so I can
see this.  So tell me, because I gather from your posts you are one of the
more experienced online racers, does the smoke give you valuable information
about when the guy ahead is overdriving his car, or do people mostly take
advantage of really large errors?

Stephen

Remco Moe

GP3...SAVE US!!!!!!

by Remco Moe » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>Beefy Eagle kicks sand in the face of Lotus 98lb weakling.  Ha.  Oh man...
>then my friend really needs to upgrade his PC (I'm a notebook user) so I can
>see this.  So tell me, because I gather from your posts you are one of the
>more experienced online racers, does the smoke give you valuable information
>about when the guy ahead is overdriving his car, or do people mostly take
>advantage of really large errors?

Well, if a car in front hits the dirt, you can expect a spin. Also,
someone who's locking all 4 wheels every corner has a great chance
to miss a corner soon. (Except if his name is Allan Scott <g>).

You can also see what kind of brakebias is used by the other drivers,
if you watch them during qualify. People where the rearwheels lock
first should be avoided, and people where the frontwheels lock very
easy could be outbraked.

The overdriving part is only used when you really know the driver
who's locking wheels....

Remco


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