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by **r..** » Wed, 15 May 1996 04:00:00

Since the Papyrus is indeed making Nascar 2, I began to wonder about the Track
Pack. I hope that the current version of the Track Pack will be compatible
with Nascar 2. I would be disappointed if I had to go out and buy another
one. It's bad enough that a patch for Talladega isn't being made......

by **William A Charet** » Wed, 15 May 1996 04:00:00

>Since the Papyrus is indeed making Nascar 2, I began to wonder about the Track
>Pack. I hope that the current version of the Track Pack will be compatible
>with Nascar 2. I would be disappointed if I had to go out and buy another
>one. It's bad enough that a patch for Talladega isn't being made......

What would be even nicer is if they just included ALL the tracks with the
game, like they did for ICR2....a track pack is kind of a crappy way to do
things if you ask me....it's like they either released the game before it
was finished or did this on purpose to make more money.

I say include all the tracks with the first game.

-Bill

by **John Wallac** » Wed, 15 May 1996 04:00:00

Shock, horror - Payrus are in it to make money? Really? ;)

They're a company - if they hadn't made money on NASCAR Racing, you
wouldn't be getting NASCAR 2 at all. I agree that all tracks should be
included, since most everyone has already bought them once, but
additional track packs covering further NASCAR tracks would be most
welcome - you can never have too many tracks :) !!

Now Daytona would be a lovely surprise in NASCAR 2.....

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by **Bow-T** » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00

If Papyrus/Sierra put out a Daytona track then we wouldn't need THE PITS
to make the Daytona for us now would we.

>>it's like they either released the game before it
>>was finished or did this on purpose to make more money.

>Shock, horror - Payrus are in it to make money? Really? ;)

>They're a company - if they hadn't made money on NASCAR Racing, you
>wouldn't be getting NASCAR 2 at all. I agree that all tracks should be
>included, since most everyone has already bought them once, but
>additional track packs covering further NASCAR tracks would be most
>welcome - you can never have too many tracks :) !!

>Now Daytona would be a lovely surprise in NASCAR 2.....

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by **David Spark** » Thu, 16 May 1996 04:00:00

>What would be even nicer is if they just included ALL the tracks with the
>game, like they did for ICR2....a track pack is kind of a crappy way to do
>things if you ask me....it's like they either released the game before it
>was finished or did this on purpose to make more money.

>I say include all the tracks with the first game.

I'd say there's a good chance they will. They've already said that Track
Packs are a net loser for them. And ICR2 has certainly set a precedence.

Dave "davids"
Sequoia Motorsports

by **Terry L. Adam** » Fri, 17 May 1996 04:00:00

> Since the Papyrus is indeed making Nascar 2, I began to wonder about the Track
> Pack. I hope that the current version of the Track Pack will be compatible
> with Nascar 2. I would be disappointed if I had to go out and buy another
> one. It's bad enough that a patch for Talladega isn't being made......

Wait, how many hours would you say that you have put into racing with
the NASCAR an the Track Pack CD's? I know I've logged at least a
thousand hours of racing Off-line/On-line with mine. A company with a
great product should make money, yes? Papyrus should be charging us
$100 for both, when they come out with Nascar2. I'll pay it!!! :)

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by **Joe Wilkerso** » Sat, 18 May 1996 04:00:00

> > Since the Papyrus is indeed making Nascar 2, I began to wonder about the Track
> > Pack. I hope that the current version of the Track Pack will be compatible
> > with Nascar 2. I would be disappointed if I had to go out and buy another
> > one. It's bad enough that a patch for Talladega isn't being made......

> Wait, how many hours would you say that you have put into racing with
> the NASCAR an the Track Pack CD's? I know I've logged at least a
> thousand hours of racing Off-line/On-line with mine. A company with a
> great product should make money, yes? Papyrus should be charging us
> $100 for both, when they come out with Nascar2. I'll pay it!!! :)

> --
> Terry L. Adams

> Compuserve: 102115,2033
> HAWAII: Adams

Don't give them any ideas on how much to charge!! I want to save money,
but I don't know about you; you could be a millionaire or something but
I am not!!!!!

by **Stuart Boo** » Sat, 18 May 1996 04:00:00

>If Papyrus/Sierra put out a Daytona track then we wouldn't need THE PITS
>to make the Daytona for us now would we.

But I doubt you'll be seeing Nascar2 before Xmas, so a summertime
release of this track will be very nice.

Stuart

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by **Pete Resto** » Sat, 18 May 1996 04:00:00

> Wait, how many hours would you say that you have put into racing with
> the NASCAR an the Track Pack CD's? I know I've logged at least a
> thousand hours of racing Off-line/On-line with mine. A company with a
> great product should make money, yes? Papyrus should be charging us
> $100 for both, when they come out with Nascar2. I'll pay it!!! :)

Spoken, like a man who has tried it already! :-)

Pete

by **Steve Sarl** » Sun, 19 May 1996 04:00:00

>> > Since the Papyrus is indeed making Nascar 2, I began to wonder about the Track
>> > Pack. I hope that the current version of the Track Pack will be compatible
>> > with Nascar 2. I would be disappointed if I had to go out and buy another
>> > one. It's bad enough that a patch for Talladega isn't being made......

>> Wait, how many hours would you say that you have put into racing with
>> the NASCAR an the Track Pack CD's? I know I've logged at least a
>> thousand hours of racing Off-line/On-line with mine. A company with a
>> great product should make money, yes? Papyrus should be charging us
>> $100 for both, when they come out with Nascar2. I'll pay it!!! :)

>> --
>> Terry L. Adams

>> Compuserve: 102115,2033
>> HAWAII: Adams
>Don't give them any ideas on how much to charge!! I want to save money,
>but I don't know about you; you could be a millionaire or something but
>I am not!!!!!

I'll second that one. 19.95 sounds good to me ;-).

Steve

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by **Drbob** » Sun, 19 May 1996 04:00:00

I dunno. Who do you want to reward/motivate? People who give us great
things or people who give us middlin' products and manage to skirt legal
prohibitions against monopolistic business practices successfully [sorry
about that, Bill :-)]. I doubt the Nascar employees at Papyrus are
millionaires and I hope they make a _lot_ of money. That's why we're
_getting_ Nascar II folks.

bob

by **John Wallac** » Sun, 19 May 1996 04:00:00

Ooops! You could be mistaken there.... :)

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by **Fraser Mun** » Sun, 19 May 1996 04:00:00

> Since the Papyrus is indeed making Nascar 2, I began to wonder about the Track
> Pack. I hope that the current version of the Track Pack will be compatible
> with Nascar 2. I would be disappointed if I had to go out and buy another
> one. It's bad enough that a patch for Talladega isn't being made......

I think it is more likely that they will box NASCAR 2 with the full
set of tracks (like IndyCar Racing 2). It's difficult to know how
else they can see themselves adding sufficient "value" to the existing
NASCAR product to make it attractive to gamers, but I would imagine
that they might consider the following areas:

- include Hawaii support in the boxed game

- improved sound - pit/car radio
- possibly even car/pit radio for those with
microphones (as long as it doesn't hog too
many CPU cycles with voice recognition).

- enhanced replay features (e.g. more intelligent replays which
mimick those you get in a real broadcast; switching between the
different camera views and following all the on-track action. Could
also have a commentator feature).

- Windows 95 support

- support for many different 3D graphics accelerator boards

- even more enhanced driver A.I.

What does everyone else think??

Fraser

by **Nick Totor** » Mon, 20 May 1996 04:00:00

<<Wait, how many hours would you say that you have put into racing
with the NASCAR an the Track Pack CD's? I know I've logged at least a
thousand hours of racing Off-line/On-line with mine. A company with a
great product should make money, yes? Papyrus should be charging us
$100 for both, when they come out with Nascar2. I'll pay it!!! :) >>

Yikes... don't give 'em any ideas!!! I'd gladly pay a fair amount
for the game when it arrives, but $100 bucks is a tad too much, dontcha'
think?
Nick

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by **r..** » Wed, 22 May 1996 04:00:00

Your right. Let's make enjoyment the basis of price for everything. So
Nascar2 should be about $1000.00. And since your boss probably only
marginally enjoys your presence during work, you should be paid at minumim
wage. NOW try to buy the game.

I'm not saying that Papyrus shouldn't make money, but the Track Pack could
have had at least a fix for Talladega. Agreed?