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Looking for UK GPL Players

Alan Stran

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Alan Stran » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Quick question: is there a group of GPL players based in the UK who kinda
'hang-out' together?  I know of the UKGPL Championship, but I'm looking for
something a bit less formal - a group who discuss this fine game, help each
other get better, and have regular online races.  Having played GPL for two
to three months now, I've now got past the "crashing all the time" phase
and am looking to move onto the next level, so to speak.  If anyone can
point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.

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Craig Jone

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Craig Jone » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

What are you looking for that r.a.s. and VROC can't give?

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Alan Stran

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Alan Stran » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00



Probably nothing.  I guess I'm just looking for the same things but on a
smaller, more 'personal' scale.  My background in sim racing has been,
until relatively recently, confined to Microprose F1GP on the Amiga - as
you can imagine I'm not really used to such a large scene!  In terms of
online racing, though, I would prefer to race against UK players so that
start times and ping times would be favourable.

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Alan
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Michae

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Michae » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00





> > What are you looking for that r.a.s. and VROC can't give?

> Probably nothing.  I guess I'm just looking for the same things but on a
> smaller, more 'personal' scale.  My background in sim racing has been,
> until relatively recently, confined to Microprose F1GP on the Amiga - as
> you can imagine I'm not really used to such a large scene!  In terms of
> online racing, though, I would prefer to race against UK players so that
> start times and ping times would be favourable.

I'm based in the UK but generally disappointed with GPL online - you can
either race against 3 other people in a UK hosted race or suffer long
ping times and frequent dropouts in international races. I probably get 1
good race in 10 frustrating attempts.

I think until more UK players start getting cable modems and DSL links so
we can host races with enough players the UK scene will never take off:-(
I for one am not really interested in 4 person races, GPL is such a
difficult sim that you need lots of cars to make an interesting race.

- Michael

BendsMast

Looking for UK GPL Players

by BendsMast » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On 10 Jun 1999 10:19:09 GMT, "Alan Strang"

I am in a similar situation, sometimes I get together with my brother
(The only human I know can play GPL for hours other than mysel) and we
have such intense competition, sometimes you feel you couldn't get any
closer to the "real thing". But then, I am back racing against the AI
cars, it's fun of course but after a few months I tended to see them
as more and more predictable, however much you changed their
behaviour. Even when you finish a race far behind them. In the past
few months I've improved dramatically (for my standards anyway) and
the best races I've had have been the ones with my brother;s brain
behind of the Lotus.
I am one of those who would be interested. Saturday's are usually my
"racing day" as my girlfriend works in the morning, otherwise she
tends to drag me off the pc or just after I manage to get a solid
rythm going, she starts "I thought this was your last lap..." ant then
3 hours later...
GPL has made a lot of wives and girfriends very unhappy, believe me.
Anyway I have 3 hours for myself now, bakc to the "ring" for more
testing...

Marko Viitane

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Marko Viitane » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

MichaelJ kirjoitti viestiss? ...

I think you should be more disappointed to your ISP rather than GPL...

I play from Finland to USA/Canada with very good connections (ISDN)

Lindsay Adam

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Lindsay Adam » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

there are a good number of racers based in the UK who would be willing to
race with you (a few with isdn or better - me included). The UKGPL league is
at www.ukgpl.com and is not very "high brow" at all (no decent hosts). We
are currently running with a non UK host for the races we do run, but have
had to split the races into 2 groups, so the league is by no means very
formal at all. On the web site there are links to join and join the mailing
list too, where you will find many like minded drivers - a few VERY fast
guys, but then a whole lot of very mediocre guys (liek me :D ) in the
league.

Cheers

-Lindsay
(remove "nunspam" to mail me)


Mike Turne

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Mike Turne » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00


There is a group of us UK drivers who Race regular "fun races" and
League races. We meet on ICQ most evenings and drivers from all over
Europe are also present with quite a few hosts with ISDN.

We are mostly all members of the Sportsims forum on Compuserve and
section 14 is where we have our Legends League based.

Come and join us, new members are always welcome.
I know Compuserve is considered by many as naff and very old hat but we
have a great competition going with lots of various skill levels and we
all have fun which is what on line racing is all about.

MikeT.  

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Alan Chandl

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Alan Chandl » Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On 10 Jun 1999 10:19:09 GMT "Alan Strang"


>Quick question: is there a group of GPL players based in the UK who kinda
>'hang-out' together?  I know of the UKGPL Championship, but I'm looking for
>something a bit less formal - a group who discuss this fine game, help each
>other get better, and have regular online races.  Having played GPL for two
>to three months now, I've now got past the "crashing all the time" phase
>and am looking to move onto the next level, so to speak.  If anyone can
>point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.

I wouldn't write off UKGPL.  Its not really got going as a fiercely
competitive championship both because of lack of hosts and actually
because we want to create fun racing rather than highly competitive
(the better drives try to drive uncompetitive cars).  There is an
e-mail list that is friendly chat and with lots of good advice which
is as important as the racing.

Just pop over to

http://start.at/greenflag

and sign yourself up - or if you want to just hang out for the chat
then click on the link at the bottom of the page to onelist.com to
connect yourself to a mailing list for the group.

As well as an on-line racing series have had some unofficial offline
races of the same circuit (actually only 4 of us seem to do this).

Even if you don't get involved in any of this at least you can find
some names you recognise and then meet them on vroc (host your own
race?)

Come on over

Alan


http://www.chandler.u-net.com

Neil Rain

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Neil Rain » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00




> > What are you looking for that r.a.s. and VROC can't give?

> Probably nothing.  I guess I'm just looking for the same things but on a
> smaller, more 'personal' scale.  My background in sim racing has been,
> until relatively recently, confined to Microprose F1GP on the Amiga - as
> you can imagine I'm not really used to such a large scene!  In terms of
> online racing, though, I would prefer to race against UK players so that
> start times and ping times would be favourable.

I agree with your sentiments about ping times - I usually get much
better pings if connecting to UK hosts.

However, I did join a race in Finland last night with 16 drivers - got
disconnected at the start but was able to reconnect, and it was great!

A real war of attrition that one, with mayhem at the first corner and
cars spinning off in front of me every couple of laps - my secret weapon
was the Alison Hine Coventry setup! ;-)

Trouble is, there are usually only 50 to 100 drivers racing on VROC at
any one time, so it needs to be a worldwide scene to give enough choice
of races!

Neil Rain

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Neil Rain » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00






> > > What are you looking for that r.a.s. and VROC can't give?

> > Probably nothing.  I guess I'm just looking for the same things but on a
> > smaller, more 'personal' scale.  My background in sim racing has been,
> > until relatively recently, confined to Microprose F1GP on the Amiga - as
> > you can imagine I'm not really used to such a large scene!  In terms of
> > online racing, though, I would prefer to race against UK players so that
> > start times and ping times would be favourable.

> I'm based in the UK but generally disappointed with GPL online - you can
> either race against 3 other people in a UK hosted race or suffer long
> ping times and frequent dropouts in international races. I probably get 1
> good race in 10 frustrating attempts.

> I think until more UK players start getting cable modems and DSL links so
> we can host races with enough players the UK scene will never take off:-(
> I for one am not really interested in 4 person races, GPL is such a
> difficult sim that you need lots of cars to make an interesting race.

If you want to race 'properly', ie. treat it as if you were in a real
race and try to grind down your opponents, then I'd agree with you - it
is a lot better with more cars.

However, if you cooperate with each other then racing with just 2 or 3
drivers can be fantastic - just arrange for the slightly faster driver
to be behind, and try to overtake the other guy, or he can go in front
and just drive a bit slower to give the other driver a challenge.

As long as you wait for each other if one of you gets too far ahead, it
can be a much more "interactive" experience to be wheel-to-wheel for
long periods rather than chasing a speck in the distance.

I'm in the UK and often race like that - but I did join a great 16-car
race at Zandvoort hosted in Finland that worked fine, presumably because
the host had an ISDN connection and a fast computer.

I'd recommend using the chat to see if other people want to "duel"
rather than race!

Tim Wheatle

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Tim Wheatle » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

A lot of the time hosts in the USA are far better for ping times.

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Andrew MacPhers

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Andrew MacPhers » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Probably, but I spent a few years*** around the flight sim and
sprtsims forums and miss them a lot... but not quite enough to justify the
cash every month :-)

Andrew McP

Michae

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Michae » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00


I've done that a couple of times, it's OK for practice but a bit
unsatisfying at the end of the day. Nothing beats a big field race (10+)
with a low ping time to the host.

- Michael

Peter Gag

Looking for UK GPL Players

by Peter Gag » Sat, 12 Jun 1999 04:00:00



> Quick question: is there a group of GPL players based in the UK who
> kinda
> 'hang-out' together?  I know of the UKGPL Championship, but I'm looking
> for
> something a bit less formal - a group who discuss this fine game, help
> each
> other get better, and have regular online races.  Having played GPL for
> two
> to three months now, I've now got past the "crashing all the time" phase
> and am looking to move onto the next level, so to speak.  If anyone can
> point me in the right direction I'd be very grateful.

Hi Alan.

I'm currently racing in the UKGPL league, and believe me, it is *not*
formal at all. Maybe the website gives that impression, but it really
isn't. The emphasis is all on *FUN* racing. Mind you, we still have the
odd dispute every now and again!!!

8-)

If you don't fancy racing, just join the mailing list, where everyone
chats quite a lot, about every aspect of GPL. Try the following link:

http://start.at/greenflag

You could also try VROC or Spyboy. Personally I have had loads of great
races with hosts from all over the world using both those (I've only got a
56k modem).

Have you tweaked your connection for GPL? as this may be why you are
suffering lots of disconnections? If you have the core.ini file, and you
tweak your DUN connection, and tweak your GPL set-up (turn down graphics
to ensure constant 36fps while on-line) for on-line play, you should be
able to have a decent races with hosts from just about anywhere. Some of
the best races I have been in were with US hosts?

8-)

*Peter*     8-)


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