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RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

Tom Pabs

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Tom Pabs » Wed, 27 Feb 2002 16:34:13

What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
"neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
on this from AL?

TP

Grant Reev

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Grant Reev » Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:27:30

Did you try the H-pattern option? that's intended for RS shifters and
the like. Direct shifting requires a key to be assigned for neutral,
while
H-pattern will go to neutral whenever no other gears are selected.

> What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
> device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
> support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
> "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
> on this from AL?

> TP

Gerry Aitke

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 02:22:37


> What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
> device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
> support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
> "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
> on this from AL?

Tom, I have my USB Shifter working fine in H pattern mode in 2002. BTW,
in real nascar, do the drivers 'heel and toe' (with or without clutch?)?
Or do they left foot brake and blip with the right?

TIA

Gerry

Stuart Becktel

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Stuart Becktel » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 06:11:37

Many left foot brake, I know Tony Stewart does. Some right foot brake, but
most don't clutch, there is so little done, and at the road courses most
don't clutch either.



> > What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
> > device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
> > support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
> > "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any
feedback
> > on this from AL?

> Tom, I have my USB Shifter working fine in H pattern mode in 2002. BTW,
> in real nascar, do the drivers 'heel and toe' (with or without clutch?)?
> Or do they left foot brake and blip with the right?

> TIA

> Gerry

Ed Solhei

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 27 Feb 2002 22:22:38

I'm at work so I cannot confirm or check this....  but are there not 3
"boxes" (on the left side between steering/gas/throttle/etc.  and the gear
setup...) - that allow you to choose what type of gear-setup you got?   I.e
sequential, direct selection or H-pattern....

I think you need to set it to H-pattern to get the car to go to neutral each
time you move the stick out of gear....

--
ed_


Gerry Aitke

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:04:26


> Many left foot brake, I know Tony Stewart does. Some right foot brake, but
> most don't clutch, there is so little done, and at the road courses most
> don't clutch either.

Cheers for the info, Stuart.

Gerry

Michael Basde

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Michael Basde » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 07:57:19

With the Jerico transmissions it really isn't required to use a clutch
provided you are somewhat competant with rev matching.  I would suspect most
drivers don't use it [I say most because inevitably a driver will tell you
he doesn't even though he may very well! Only telemetry will tell you the
real answer!  ;)  ]

As for the 'heel and toe' question, it really is a matter of personal style.
A lot has to do with the background they have in racing.  Many of the racers
who started out in karts and graduated to road racing will left foot brake
(ala Tony Stewart). This is largely because karts help you to develop the
feel in the left foot that you need to properly modulate the brakes.  Road
racers are generally a lot smoother at shifting and have had plently of
experience to develop the necessary feel for braking as well.  Other drivers
who have grown up racing stockcars during their career will tend to right
foot brake (ala Rusty Wallace and Ricky Rudd) since they haven't developed
the feel in the left foot; and have the left ready to engage the clutch
should they get spun around.  It can be learned but like anything it takes a
fair bit of practice.

Mike



> > What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
> > device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
> > support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
> > "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any
feedback
> > on this from AL?

> Tom, I have my USB Shifter working fine in H pattern mode in 2002. BTW,
> in real nascar, do the drivers 'heel and toe' (with or without clutch?)?
> Or do they left foot brake and blip with the right?

> TIA

> Gerry

bertr

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by bertr » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 10:44:07

I had this same problem in N4, but let me ask again for N2002:

Has anyone gotten the USB shifter to work with this sim?  Whenever I try to use
the shifter, I can put the car in gear, but when I give it throttle, it's as if
the brakes are fully locked.  In other words, the car looks like it tries to
move forward (it lurches a few inches) but is stuck in place.  When in neutral,
I can rev the throttle, but once in gear, I can't.

My system has an LWFF on ID#1, the Shifter on ID#2 and TSW pedals on ID#3.  OS
is Win98SE.

If anyone has the shifter working in NR2002 (especially if you're using
multiple controllers), I would appreciate your posting your specific settings
-- both within the shifter utility and within NR2002.

BTW -- This set-up works perfectly in GPL.

Thanks.

Bert


> What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
> device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
> support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
> "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
> on this from AL?

> TP

bertr

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by bertr » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 11:54:11

Left out one little bit of info......I just downloaded the latest version of the
Shifter Utility (2.1).  I still can't get it to work in either N4 or NR2002.  (It
works great in Rally Trophy, though!)

Any help would be appreciated.

Bert


> I had this same problem in N4, but let me ask again for N2002:

> Has anyone gotten the USB shifter to work with this sim?  Whenever I try to use
> the shifter, I can put the car in gear, but when I give it throttle, it's as if
> the brakes are fully locked.  In other words, the car looks like it tries to
> move forward (it lurches a few inches) but is stuck in place.  When in neutral,
> I can rev the throttle, but once in gear, I can't.

> My system has an LWFF on ID#1, the Shifter on ID#2 and TSW pedals on ID#3.  OS
> is Win98SE.

> If anyone has the shifter working in NR2002 (especially if you're using
> multiple controllers), I would appreciate your posting your specific settings
> -- both within the shifter utility and within NR2002.

> BTW -- This set-up works perfectly in GPL.

> Thanks.

> Bert


> > What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
> > device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
> > support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
> > "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
> > on this from AL?

> > TP

Gerry Aitke

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Gerry Aitke » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 16:33:28


> Left out one little bit of info......I just downloaded the latest version of the
> Shifter Utility (2.1).  I still can't get it to work in either N4 or NR2002.  

You DON'T need to use the shifter utility in 2002, just use 'H pattern'
setting in control options.

Good luck

Gerry

Jean Deslaurier

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Jean Deslaurier » Thu, 28 Feb 2002 22:44:13

I don't think N4 or N2002 supports 3 controllers.

At least I never got it to work.



>I had this same problem in N4, but let me ask again for N2002:

>Has anyone gotten the USB shifter to work with this sim?  Whenever I try to use
>the shifter, I can put the car in gear, but when I give it throttle, it's as if
>the brakes are fully locked.  In other words, the car looks like it tries to
>move forward (it lurches a few inches) but is stuck in place.  When in neutral,
>I can rev the throttle, but once in gear, I can't.

>My system has an LWFF on ID#1, the Shifter on ID#2 and TSW pedals on ID#3.  OS
>is Win98SE.

>If anyone has the shifter working in NR2002 (especially if you're using
>multiple controllers), I would appreciate your posting your specific settings
>-- both within the shifter utility and within NR2002.

>BTW -- This set-up works perfectly in GPL.

>Thanks.

>Bert


>> What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
>> device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
>> support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
>> "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
>> on this from AL?

>> TP

(Rich8

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by (Rich8 » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 00:31:53

RS shifter works great for me in NR2002 using H pattern, but my setup
is not nearly as complex,, I only have a TSW2 and RS shifter...



>I don't think N4 or N2002 supports 3 controllers.

>At least I never got it to work.



>>I had this same problem in N4, but let me ask again for N2002:

>>Has anyone gotten the USB shifter to work with this sim?  Whenever I try to use
>>the shifter, I can put the car in gear, but when I give it throttle, it's as if
>>the brakes are fully locked.  In other words, the car looks like it tries to
>>move forward (it lurches a few inches) but is stuck in place.  When in neutral,
>>I can rev the throttle, but once in gear, I can't.

>>My system has an LWFF on ID#1, the Shifter on ID#2 and TSW pedals on ID#3.  OS
>>is Win98SE.

>>If anyone has the shifter working in NR2002 (especially if you're using
>>multiple controllers), I would appreciate your posting your specific settings
>>-- both within the shifter utility and within NR2002.

>>BTW -- This set-up works perfectly in GPL.

>>Thanks.

>>Bert


>>> What am I missing....is N2002 not supporting "direct support" for this
>>> device?  I don't see N2002 listed at the Act Labs site as having direct
>>> support.....and while you can get it to work in N2002.....you can get
>>> "neutral" to be recognized (at least I can't figure out how).  Any feedback
>>> on this from AL?

>>> TP

Gerry Aitke

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Gerry Aitke » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 01:52:32


> I don't think N4 or N2002 supports 3 controllers.

I have Redline pedals, Logi Momo and USB shifter working fine in N4 &
N2002

Did you know that N4 & 2002 have more than one calibration screen?
Sometimes a controller will not be on the first screen and you'll have
to scroll to the second or third to see it.

Gerry

bertr

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by bertr » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 12:08:39

Gerry,

Thanks for your reply. I tried it without activating the shifter utility, but I still
can't get it to work.  I'm hoping that you can provide a bit more advice, as you were
the only one who was able to help me with my pedal config problem in Rally Trophy
(which DOES work well with the RS Shifter, and my controller configuration BTW).

Back to NR2002:  It seems that whenever I have the GPL USB Shifter activated as a
controller in Device Manager (with or without activating the Shifter utility), my
brake pedal becomes non-functional.  It won't even calibrate.  This happens in both N4
and NR2002. ..And it doesn't matter whether I have it set at sequential shifter or
H-pattern.   I have to "disable" the HID-compliant controller (the USB Shifter)  "in
this profile" (in Windows Device Manager) in order to make the brake pedal become
functional again.

Once again, I have the LWFF on ID#1, the GPL USB Shifter on ID#2 (when activated) and
the TSW pedals on ID#3 in Win98SE.

Any thought would be appreciated.
Bert



> > Left out one little bit of info......I just downloaded the latest version of the
> > Shifter Utility (2.1).  I still can't get it to work in either N4 or NR2002.

> You DON'T need to use the shifter utility in 2002, just use 'H pattern'
> setting in control options.

> Good luck

> Gerry

Gerry Aitke

RS Shifter Driver for N2002?

by Gerry Aitke » Fri, 01 Mar 2002 16:48:12


> Once again, I have the LWFF on ID#1, the GPL USB Shifter on ID#2 (when activated) and
> the TSW pedals on ID#3 in Win98SE.

Try this: TSW on ID#1, LWFF on ID#2 and Shifter on ID#3.

The shifter must be interfering with ID#2, so if the LWFF in there it
won't matter if it's brake or throttle are screwed. LWFF runs fine on
ID#2, BTW.

Gerry


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