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>I cannot get the pallete right when I import into nascar 2.  Is there a
>pallete anywhere that can help me out?  I need serious help with this.

>> >You can grab the palette from an existing car image. However, I've found
>> >that no matter what I do, N2 complains about a corrupted palette. The fix I
>> >came up with is to copy the car to an "untainted" car image and then save
>> >that as the file to import. It's a pain, and I've already logged a bug
>> >report with Papyrus.

>> >Dave (davids) Sparks
>> >Late Night League
>> >http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

>> I tried this and it did allow me to import the car but the imported
>> car's graphics are look terrible!! It looks fine in Paint Shop Pro but
>> in N2 it's no good at all. Anyone else have this problem or is it just
>> me?
>    Yep same here the colors just go all goofy. I wished they would have
>started out with the same color pallete as before and just added to it
>or something cause this is a real pain. I keep trying to make a MGD car
>and the graphic shows up in PSP but when I bring into N2 it looks like a
>2 year whipped out his crayons and had at it. Hope there will be a way
>around this or something.

>:
>: I've added a new section on N2 car painting to the Late Night website:
>:
>:   http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/Features/paintcars.html
>:
>: The problem, as near as I can tell, is that there are a number of colors
>: that aren't allowed on the car that show up in the palette. When PSP does
>: the color conversion from 24-bit down to 8-bit, some pixels get mapped to
>: these "illegal" colors, which show up transparent in Paintkit. The
>painful
>: solution involves using the color replacer to change the illegal colors
>to
>: a legal color that closely matches.
>:
>: Unless someone comes up with an alternate solution, I plan to work on a
>: utility that will do this automatically. Should save me enough time in
>the
>: first couple of cars to make it worth my while.
>:

>I still use an obsolete program Deluxe Paint II.  What I do is change
>the colors which NASCAR doesn't use to a color that is not in the range
>allowed (something day-glo'ish).  I am pretty sure that the first 48
>colors are not used and about the last 40 colors.  I don't know if you
>can do this with PSP though.

>>:
>>: I've added a new section on N2 car painting to the Late Night website:
>>:
>>:   http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/Features/paintcars.html
>>:
>>: The problem, as near as I can tell, is that there are a number of colors
>>: that aren't allowed on the car that show up in the palette. When PSP does
>>: the color conversion from 24-bit down to 8-bit, some pixels get mapped to
>>: these "illegal" colors, which show up transparent in Paintkit. The
>>painful
>>: solution involves using the color replacer to change the illegal colors
>>to
>>: a legal color that closely matches.
>>:
>>: Unless someone comes up with an alternate solution, I plan to work on a
>>: utility that will do this automatically. Should save me enough time in
>>the
>>: first couple of cars to make it worth my while.
>>:

>>I still use an obsolete program Deluxe Paint II.  What I do is change
>>the colors which NASCAR doesn't use to a color that is not in the range
>>allowed (something day-glo'ish).  I am pretty sure that the first 48
>>colors are not used and about the last 40 colors.  I don't know if you
>>can do this with PSP though.

>I think you can do that with PSP, and I thought about trying that. It
>doesn't fix the corrupt palette problem. My plan was to try and nail both
>of them with the same program. Had to dig way back to find the PCX file
>format stuff, but I'm halfway home now.

>Dave (davids) Sparks
>Late Night League
>http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/latenite.html

>:
>: I've added a new section on N2 car painting to the Late Night website:
>:
>:   http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/Features/paintcars.html
>:
>: The problem, as near as I can tell, is that there are a number of colors
>: that aren't allowed on the car that show up in the palette. When PSP does
>: the color conversion from 24-bit down to 8-bit, some pixels get mapped to
>: these "illegal" colors, which show up transparent in Paintkit. The painful
>: solution involves using the color replacer to change the illegal colors to
>: a legal color that closely matches.
>:
>: Unless someone comes up with an alternate solution, I plan to work on a
>: utility that will do this automatically. Should save me enough time in the
>: first couple of cars to make it worth my while.
>:

>I still use an obsolete program Deluxe Paint II.  What I do is change
>the colors which NASCAR doesn't use to a color that is not in the range
>allowed (something day-glo'ish).  I am pretty sure that the first 48
>colors are not used and about the last 40 colors.  I don't know if you
>can do this with PSP though.

>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

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>>:
>>: I've added a new section on N2 car painting to the Late Night website:
>>:
>>:   http://www.sequoia-dev.com/Hawaii/Features/paintcars.html
>>:
>>: The problem, as near as I can tell, is that there are a number of colors
>>: that aren't allowed on the car that show up in the palette. When PSP does
>>: the color conversion from 24-bit down to 8-bit, some pixels get mapped to
>>: these "illegal" colors, which show up transparent in Paintkit. The painful
>>: solution involves using the color replacer to change the illegal colors to
>>: a legal color that closely matches.
>>:
>>: Unless someone comes up with an alternate solution, I plan to work on a
>>: utility that will do this automatically. Should save me enough time in the
>>: first couple of cars to make it worth my while.
>>:

>>I still use an obsolete program Deluxe Paint II.  What I do is change
>>the colors which NASCAR doesn't use to a color that is not in the range
>>allowed (something day-glo'ish).  I am pretty sure that the first 48
>>colors are not used and about the last 40 colors.  I don't know if you
>>can do this with PSP though.

>>--
>>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>Wow, I'm shocked that someone else is using Deluxe Paint II.  I have
>used this program since I had my Amiga computer many years back.  I
>have tried every other paint program out there, but when I can I still
>go back to DP II.  I do the same thing you do by mapping the colors
>that are not used.  What I also do is save brushes for the "real"
>palette and the "paint" palette.  Becuase DP II allows you to switch
>between the brush palette, the original picture palette, and the
>scratch page palette, it is very easy to add in graphics from other
>sources and remap the palette without using the "forbidden" colors.

>Tim Kitchen

>: How do you know what colors are "forbidden?"
>:

>I went through and paint a stock white car with "color swatches" from
>the palette inside the N2 paintshop.  One color for the start of the
>color range and one for the last in the range.  Created a strange
>looking car.  Exported it and loaded it into another paint program.
>Just compared the palette by picking up the color swatches.  The
>"forbidden" colors are the ones that turn "white" when you import them
>back into N2's paintshop.

>--
>**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
>     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

>: How do you know what colors are "forbidden?"
>:

>I went through and paint a stock white car with "color swatches" from
>the palette inside the N2 paintshop.  One color for the start of the
>color range and one for the last in the range.  Created a strange
>looking car.

>I want to paste some graphics on my car and I think I am following all
>great advice I have gotten but the pasted on stuff looks really
>screwed up. I am assuming that this is part of the palate problem. I
>there a work around? How can I paste graphics on a car and have it
>look correct? (I am using PSP and importing into paintshop) I have
>tried photostyler, too. Same result.