rec.autos.simulators

>Can we get some sort of word on how many opponents we can expect at certain
>Baud rates?

>I run at 31.2kbps (so much for 56k)
>and what about slightly slower and faster modems? Will we need a cable
>modem\ADSL to get a 44 care field going? Just wondering.

>   You certainly won't be the host....
>Looking at GPL, which "should" be more
>hardware intensive and therefore the results
>for N2000 should be at least slightly better
>results.  However with GPL via VROC the
>recomended # of players you could host would
>be about 4.  so with N2000 I'd guess a # of 4-6
>"MIGHT" be appropriate.
>  BUT>>>  If Sierra is doing the hosting via
>high speed access, then you might realistly
>expect a large # of participants.  Frankly
>using the NROS model, the limit of 24 is
>RARELY reached in the free demo area.
>Most pickup races are from 5 to 15 drivers
>so the Magic 44 limit is almost a Moot point.
>  About the only time this # would become a
>factor would be in a league situation where
>you have approximentally 44 or more
>drivers.(imagine not qualifying...)
>  So I have to ask...why is getting 44 drivers
>important in an online race?  2nd...What
>modem do you have?  Many companies have
>firmware upgrades that will increase your
>connect and throughput speeds.  3rd...If
>you have a winmodem, throw it away...now!
>4th...Other than a consumer, I have NO
>connection with Papyrus so take EVERYTHING
>I say as merely guesswork.
>dave henrie
>-
>(gotta go..lightning storm moving in.)
>-
>  On May 17, 1999 A Whale was killed off the coast of
>Washington State.  The Whale was killed in the name of
>Tradition.....I say....
>   %&#& Tradition!

>>Can we get some sort of word on how many opponents we can expect at
certain
>>Baud rates?

>>I run at 31.2kbps (so much for 56k)
>>and what about slightly slower and faster modems? Will we need a cable
>>modem\ADSL to get a 44 care field going? Just wondering.

>I have a USR winmodem. Why should I throw it out? I'm not that concerned
>about it making me use windows, and it can't hurt my processer (450 P2)
that
>much.

>>I have a USR winmodem. Why should I throw it out? I'm not that concerned
>>about it making me use windows, and it can't hurt my processer (450 P2)
>that
>>much.

>  Winmodems eat clock cycles in the cpu AND the bus(I think)
>Allison Hind has a few good articles on modems on her website,
>I think she agrees that GPL is SO resource hungry that even
>just a few ticks drain on the cpu degrades online play.  Now
>I'll restate that N2000 "should" be less cpu intensive than
>GPL but heck with 3d posisitonal sound, 16 bit graphics,
>etc  it won't take much to bog down that shiny P2.
>  I have a Diamond Supra Express.  when I first got it,
>I only connected at 31.6 to 33 kbs.  after the Firmware
>upgrade I get 48kbs about 95% of the time.
>  If your focus is ONLINE ***,,,and by this I mean
>racing or Quake II or III or whatever,,,the winmodem is
>just that little be extra drag...plus it consumes large ammounts
>of system memory as I just now recalled....some users with
>64 megs of ram were getting lots of lockups.  after they
>upgraded to 128 the problems disappeared.
>dave henrie

>>I have a USR winmodem. Why should I throw it out? I'm not that concerned
>>about it making me use windows, and it can't hurt my processer (450 P2)
>that
>>much.

>  Winmodems eat clock cycles in the cpu AND the bus(I think)
>Allison Hind has a few good articles on modems on her website,
>I think she agrees that GPL is SO resource hungry that even
>just a few ticks drain on the cpu degrades online play.  Now
>I'll restate that N2000 "should" be less cpu intensive than
>GPL but heck with 3d posisitonal sound, 16 bit graphics,
>etc  it won't take much to bog down that shiny P2.
>  I have a Diamond Supra Express.  when I first got it,
>I only connected at 31.6 to 33 kbs.  after the Firmware
>upgrade I get 48kbs about 95% of the time.
>  If your focus is ONLINE ***,,,and by this I mean
>racing or Quake II or III or whatever,,,the winmodem is
>just that little be extra drag...plus it consumes large ammounts
>of system memory as I just now recalled....some users with
>64 megs of ram were getting lots of lockups.  after they
>upgraded to 128 the problems disappeared.
>dave henrie

>   So I have to ask...why is getting 44 drivers
> important in an online race?  2nd...What
> modem do you have?  Many companies have
> firmware upgrades that will increase your
> connect and throughput speeds.  3rd...If
> you have a winmodem, throw it away...now!
> 4th...Other than a consumer, I have NO
> connection with Papyrus so take EVERYTHING
> I say as merely guesswork.
> dave henrie

>>   So I have to ask...why is getting 44 drivers
>> important in an online race?  2nd...What
>> modem do you have?  Many companies have
>> firmware upgrades that will increase your
>> connect and throughput speeds.  3rd...If
>> you have a winmodem, throw it away...now!
>> 4th...Other than a consumer, I have NO
>> connection with Papyrus so take EVERYTHING
>> I say as merely guesswork.
>> dave henrie

>Why 42/44 drivers?  Because it is AWSOME.  I have raced in many full 24
>man fields, and racing with 42 people at C***te or Dega or Atlanta
>will be fantastic.  Heck, even 35+ at Bristol will be unbelievable.
>Just this ONE little upgrade (going from 24 to 42) online racers will
>make this new game well worth the money.

>Note:  The 42 player option PROBABLY will be either on a high powered
>Sierra or TEN/NROS server ONLY.

>Bill / Amish on TEN

>    You certainly won't be the host....
> Looking at GPL, which "should" be more
> hardware intensive and therefore the results
> for N2000 should be at least slightly better
> results.  However with GPL via VROC the
> recomended # of players you could host would
> be about 4.  so with N2000 I'd guess a # of 4-6
> "MIGHT" be appropriate.
>   BUT>>>  If Sierra is doing the hosting via
> high speed access, then you might realistly
> expect a large # of participants.  Frankly
> using the NROS model, the limit of 24 is
> RARELY reached in the free demo area.
> Most pickup races are from 5 to 15 drivers
> so the Magic 44 limit is almost a Moot point.
>   About the only time this # would become a
> factor would be in a league situation where
> you have approximentally 44 or more
> drivers.(imagine not qualifying...)
>   So I have to ask...why is getting 44 drivers
> important in an online race?  2nd...What
> modem do you have?  Many companies have
> firmware upgrades that will increase your
> connect and throughput speeds.  3rd...If
> you have a winmodem, throw it away...now!
> 4th...Other than a consumer, I have NO
> connection with Papyrus so take EVERYTHING
> I say as merely guesswork.
> dave henrie
> -
> (gotta go..lightning storm moving in.)
> -
>   On May 17, 1999 A Whale was killed off the coast of
> Washington State.  The Whale was killed in the name of
> Tradition.....I say....
>    %&#& Tradition!

> >Can we get some sort of word on how many opponents we can expect at certain
> >Baud rates?

> >I run at 31.2kbps (so much for 56k)
> >and what about slightly slower and faster modems? Will we need a cable
> >modem\ADSL to get a 44 care field going? Just wondering.