rec.autos.simulators

> THE FORCE RS is connected to a serial port only!!! Some other people
> have said this and to be honest I thought they had a***loose..
> "surely it must have a joystick connection?" I thought but it seems I
> was confused with the regular RS. So The bottom line?

> ACT Labs Force RS: Analog(pots), Win 95 Only, cart future proofing

>This was suppose to be a response/clarification to a few people out
>there but I couldn't find the old threads so I figured I'd do it this
>way..

>Okay, I just contacted ACT Labs and not only did I learn that I'll be
>getting my wheel tomorrow but I found out some stuff about DOS support.

>Here's the deal:

>The Regular RS uses a joy stick connection and will work in DOS and WIN
>95/98 for sure... However....

>THE FORCE RS is connected to a serial port only!!! Some other people
>have said this and to be honest I thought they had a***loose..
>"surely it must have a joystick connection?" I thought but it seems I
>was confused with the regular RS. So The bottom line?

>MS FF: DIGITAL, no pots, Win 95 only, not future proof
>ACT Labs RS: Analog(pots), Win 95/DOS, cart future proofing
>ACT Labs Force RS: Analog(pots), Win 95 Only, cart future proofing

>In light of this, some may be turned off of the ACT Labs wheel since
>pots will NEVER last forever no matter how much money you spend on
>them(no matter what the sales people say). The MS wheels looks great,
>seems to have very steady calibration, good Force feedback but some
>reports of less effects in certain games, light pedals(not a major prob
>but...), and not enough throw on the pedals (it was either gas or
>brake... kinda personal thing anyway). Some people have really bashed
>the ACT Labs wheel around calling it ***compared to the MS wheel. Now,
>as much as I believe in the importance of personal opinion, perhaps they
>got a defective model or something, because of the several reviews out
>on the RS(s) none of those problems were ever mentioned and all the
>reviews have been outstanding. I don't know yet but I think I'm going to
>be happy with my ACT Labs setup... if not, I'll return it and get a full
>refund. Anyway, that's the skinny on DOS support in case anyone had any
>questions.

>    -YUBS

> Well I have printout of the ForceRS spec page from about 2 weeks
> ago. It clearly states "Windows 95 and DOS compatible". I checked
> just now and (wouldn't you know) it has ***ing changed! It now clearly
> says "Windows 95 compatible (Not DOS compatible" They were so
> e***d when they re-wrote this spec page they left out the last ")". I'm
> pretty close to canceling my order.

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> >This was suppose to be a response/clarification to a few people out
> >there but I couldn't find the old threads so I figured I'd do it this
> >way..

> >Okay, I just contacted ACT Labs and not only did I learn that I'll be
> >getting my wheel tomorrow but I found out some stuff about DOS support.

> >Here's the deal:

> >The Regular RS uses a joy stick connection and will work in DOS and WIN
> >95/98 for sure... However....

> >THE FORCE RS is connected to a serial port only!!! Some other people
> >have said this and to be honest I thought they had a***loose..
> >"surely it must have a joystick connection?" I thought but it seems I
> >was confused with the regular RS. So The bottom line?

> >MS FF: DIGITAL, no pots, Win 95 only, not future proof
> >ACT Labs RS: Analog(pots), Win 95/DOS, cart future proofing
> >ACT Labs Force RS: Analog(pots), Win 95 Only, cart future proofing

> >In light of this, some may be turned off of the ACT Labs wheel since
> >pots will NEVER last forever no matter how much money you spend on
> >them(no matter what the sales people say). The MS wheels looks great,
> >seems to have very steady calibration, good Force feedback but some
> >reports of less effects in certain games, light pedals(not a major prob
> >but...), and not enough throw on the pedals (it was either gas or
> >brake... kinda personal thing anyway). Some people have really bashed
> >the ACT Labs wheel around calling it ***compared to the MS wheel. Now,
> >as much as I believe in the importance of personal opinion, perhaps they
> >got a defective model or something, because of the several reviews out
> >on the RS(s) none of those problems were ever mentioned and all the
> >reviews have been outstanding. I don't know yet but I think I'm going to
> >be happy with my ACT Labs setup... if not, I'll return it and get a full
> >refund. Anyway, that's the skinny on DOS support in case anyone had any
> >questions.

> >    -YUBS

>Ahhhhhh.... DO NOT CANCEL THAT ORDER!!!... I got my wheel yesterday(he he
he
>over night shipping to Canada!) and wouldn't you know it, but thats the day
>windows decides "hmmmm, nows a good time for a fatal error"... I
re-installed
>windows 7 or 8 times before having to do a total delete and install, but
boy
>did I fix him <groan> Anyway point is, now I'm rocking with my brand
spanking
>new wheel and all I have to say is AWESOME!!.... I'll try posting a little
>bit more detailed stuff later but for now know this 1) The wheel is great,
2)
>Future proof cartridge system rocks 3) Force FX are good  4) the wheel had
>nothing to do with my system melt down and 5) There is tension is non-force
>feed back games just in case you were wondering... 'till.... later

> >Ahhhhhh.... DO NOT CANCEL THAT ORDER!!!... I got my wheel yesterday(he he
> he
> >over night shipping to Canada!) and wouldn't you know it, but thats the day
> >windows decides "hmmmm, nows a good time for a fatal error"... I
> re-installed
> >windows 7 or 8 times before having to do a total delete and install, but
> boy
> >did I fix him <groan> Anyway point is, now I'm rocking with my brand
> spanking
> >new wheel and all I have to say is AWESOME!!.... I'll try posting a little
> >bit more detailed stuff later but for now know this 1) The wheel is great,
> 2)
> >Future proof cartridge system rocks 3) Force FX are good  4) the wheel had
> >nothing to do with my system melt down and 5) There is tension is non-force
> >feed back games just in case you were wondering... 'till.... later

> Glad you like it. Have you tried it in any DOS game like N2 or
> ICR2 or GP2? About the only hope for DOS support is if it will
> work in a DOS window (without exiting to DOS or rebooting).
> Many Windows devices (like CDroms) will work without
> DOS drivers if you run them from within Windows.

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