rec.autos.simulators

by **teehol** » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:25:14

On Sat, 24 Nov 2001 01:54:16 GMT, "Joe Marques"

>Did you create a new user profile? It's recommended in the readme.

Thanks, no I didn't try that, but will do so. The readme (after
patching) still shows info for v1.0.4.5.

The Preference sliders work now. They were locked-up at one point.
Dunno why they locked-up, but seem to work fine again.

Frame-rate definitely is faster. The only big problem I see is in the
rear-view mirrors. They're not clear all the time.

If a car is close behind me, then falls back, small parts of that
car are still displayed in the mirrors (jibberish leftovers from the
previous view). Lots of horizontal graphic-lines, differing colors,
etc. Never had a mirror problem before the patch.

Sure looks like they removed lots of detail from the mirrors, (never
had mirror-problems before this pre-release patch), but now I see lots
of graphical remnants.

It needs more work, but frame-rate is much better, and lap-times are
dropping (I'm sure because of much less graphic-stutters).

by **DOK** » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:02:14

Where do I download the Advanced Opions Doc? I downloaded the patch
already.

DOK

On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:35:30 +0000, Ashley McConnell

>http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=769

>Come get it :D

>... No Multiplayer AI though....PLEASE fill in the feedback, i would
>REALLY love this game if it had Multi-AI.

>ALl the best,
>Ash

by **Philip For** » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:14:18

Hi DOK, here is the link
http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=768&subMenu=4

Regards Phil.

> Where do I download the Advanced Opions Doc? I downloaded the patch
> already.

> DOK

> On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:35:30 +0000, Ashley McConnell

> >http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=769

> >Come get it :D

> >... No Multiplayer AI though....PLEASE fill in the feedback, i would
> >REALLY love this game if it had Multi-AI.

> >ALl the best,
> >Ash

by **DOK** » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 22:48:59

Thanks

DOK

by **Stephen Smit** » Sun, 25 Nov 2001 23:18:55

Thanks again, Phillip.

> Hi DOK, here is the link
> http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=768&subMenu=4

> Regards Phil.

> > Where do I download the Advanced Opions Doc? I downloaded the patch
> > already.

> > DOK

> > On Fri, 23 Nov 2001 16:35:30 +0000, Ashley McConnell

> > >http://f12001.phosworks.se/dynpage.asp?page_id=769

> > >Come get it :D

> > >... No Multiplayer AI though....PLEASE fill in the feedback, i would
> > >REALLY love this game if it had Multi-AI.

> > >ALl the best,
> > >Ash

by **Greg Cisk** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 01:39:47

Is force feedback implemented?

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by **Greg Cisk** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 01:45:55

OK I'm getting the update now. But I have a few more questions.
Right at the time I was trying to get this sorted out, my news
server crapped out, and I think my messages never got posted.

Namely: I have a V5 5500. After I got the game running with
DX 8.1, the framerate was about 2 seconds per frame or
worse. I read that you had to do the windowed mode thing
for Nvidia cards but I presumed the Voodoo5 would be OK.
Any suggestions?

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by **Greg Cis** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 06:58:48

> Try the advanced options document for suggested FF settings for popular
> wheels, may get even better :)

The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS
was awesome at 800x600 with full detail. This game blows at
800x600 and 640x480 at any detail setting. I even went into the
PLR file and edited the # of visable cars to 4. Why isn't this
and option in the game? Anyway it doesn't matter because the
performance afterwards is unchanged. The framerate just sucks...

Too bad because IMHO the FF in F1 2001 is better than GPL. But
I am *NOT* going to do strictly TEST sessions. In TEST sessions
the framerate is great until *ANY* other car is in the area. Then
it is crap.

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by **David G Fishe** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 07:31:00

Changing it to 4 may reduce your fps quite a bit.

David G Fisher

> > Try the advanced options document for suggested FF settings for popular
> > wheels, may get even better :)

> The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS
> was awesome at 800x600 with full detail. This game blows at
> 800x600 and 640x480 at any detail setting. I even went into the
> PLR file and edited the # of visable cars to 4. Why isn't this
> and option in the game? Anyway it doesn't matter because the
> performance afterwards is unchanged. The framerate just sucks...

> Too bad because IMHO the FF in F1 2001 is better than GPL. But
> I am *NOT* going to do strictly TEST sessions. In TEST sessions
> the framerate is great until *ANY* other car is in the area. Then
> it is crap.

> --

by **Pat Dotso** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:18:01

> The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS

Runs fine on my Athlon 750 with a $100 Geforce2 MX. Frame
rates are often over 50 fps. FF doesn't cause too much of
a frame rate hit.

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Pat Dotson

by **briGu** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 08:44:22

You're hurting for RAM - 128Mb isn't enough these days, plus it's dirt
cheap. I have a PIII 850, 384Mb RAM, GeForce 2 Pro/64. The game kills in
test mode (50-55), and gets pretty good framerates in races, too (~30-35)
If you can spare $60 or so, get another stick of RAM in there - it'll really
help out.

> > Try the advanced options document for suggested FF settings for popular
> > wheels, may get even better :)

> The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS
> was awesome at 800x600 with full detail. This game blows at
> 800x600 and 640x480 at any detail setting. I even went into the
> PLR file and edited the # of visable cars to 4. Why isn't this
> and option in the game? Anyway it doesn't matter because the
> performance afterwards is unchanged. The framerate just sucks...

> Too bad because IMHO the FF in F1 2001 is better than GPL. But
> I am *NOT* going to do strictly TEST sessions. In TEST sessions
> the framerate is great until *ANY* other car is in the area. Then
> it is crap.

> --

by **Todd Sorense** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:34:20

Pat,

What wheel do you use (assuming you use a wheel)? With my act labs FF my
frame rate drops 20-30 fps when enabling force feedback.

Todd

> > The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> > FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> > the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS

> Runs fine on my Athlon 750 with a $100 Geforce2 MX. Frame
> rates are often over 50 fps. FF doesn't cause too much of
> a frame rate hit.

> --
> Pat Dotson

by **Pat Dotso** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:57:15

ACT Labs. It may well drop 20 fps, but that's sort of
irrelevant to me because driving without FF is not an
option. Besides, going from 70 fps to 50 fps isn't
going to kill me :)

My point was only that fps are still far more than
acceptable for me, but then I remember struggling to
get 15 fps with ICR1 on a 486SX-25! How did we live
without 3d acceleration?

--
Pat Dotson

> Pat,

> What wheel do you use (assuming you use a wheel)? With my act labs FF my
> frame rate drops 20-30 fps when enabling force feedback.

> Todd

> > > The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> > > FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> > > the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS

> > Runs fine on my Athlon 750 with a $100 Geforce2 MX. Frame
> > rates are often over 50 fps. FF doesn't cause too much of
> > a frame rate hit.

> > --
> > Pat Dotson

by **Todd Sorense** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:11:43

Good points. I wanted to verify a drop in fps with the Act Labs wheel -
mainly to make sure I wasn't screwing something up. I don't notice this kind
of frame rate decline in other racing sim that I own with this wheel though.

Todd

> ACT Labs. It may well drop 20 fps, but that's sort of
> irrelevant to me because driving without FF is not an
> option. Besides, going from 70 fps to 50 fps isn't
> going to kill me :)

> My point was only that fps are still far more than
> acceptable for me, but then I remember struggling to
> get 15 fps with ICR1 on a 486SX-25! How did we live
> without 3d acceleration?

> --
> Pat Dotson

> > Pat,

> > What wheel do you use (assuming you use a wheel)? With my act labs FF my
> > frame rate drops 20-30 fps when enabling force feedback.

> > Todd

> > > > The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> > > > FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> > > > the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS

> > > Runs fine on my Athlon 750 with a $100 Geforce2 MX. Frame
> > > rates are often over 50 fps. FF doesn't cause too much of
> > > a frame rate hit.

> > > --
> > > Pat Dotson

by **Joe Marque** » Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:40:13

Make sure you set other cars to LOW detail, otherwise you're *** the V5.
It should get better with this setting. Also no AA and 16-bit graphics. A
little more ram should help a bit since my old system was close yet I had
better performance.

Unfortunately, the V5 now basically sucks (ouch, it hurts saying that!). I
was running a PIII 672 (o/c) w/256 mb ram and a V5 and got 10 fps in race
with mid detail (running everything low got me over 20 when the cars spread
out). Upgraded to an AMD 1600+ w/512 MB ram and jumped to 20+ fps with high
detail graphics. Upgraded to a GF3 Ti 500 and get 50 fps in race with all
graphics FULL over 80 fps testing. V5 is sadly over the hill.

PS-Setting other cars LOD to 4 isn't the number of cars it's a distance with
4 being quite high so fps should suck.

--
Joe Marques

> > Try the advanced options document for suggested FF settings for popular
> > wheels, may get even better :)

> The stock FF settings are pretty good on my Logitech Formula
> FF wheel. However, the framerate totally sucks (it did before
> the patch). I have a P3-750, 128MB ram, Voodoo5 5500. F1 2000 CS
> was awesome at 800x600 with full detail. This game blows at
> 800x600 and 640x480 at any detail setting. I even went into the
> PLR file and edited the # of visable cars to 4. Why isn't this
> and option in the game? Anyway it doesn't matter because the
> performance afterwards is unchanged. The framerate just sucks...

> Too bad because IMHO the FF in F1 2001 is better than GPL. But
> I am *NOT* going to do strictly TEST sessions. In TEST sessions
> the framerate is great until *ANY* other car is in the area. Then
> it is crap.

> --

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