rec.autos.simulators

by **OldManWa** » Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:00:00

Thought everyone would be interested in reading reply from Sierra about
GPL lockups , so here is my message back to them there message to me and
then
my first message to them

Thanks for the information and suggestions on my problem running GPL.
To answer the first part of suggestion here is a copy of my autoexec.bat
file

REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan
SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1
Rem,"Added for Voodoo2"
set SST_GRXCLK=90
set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4
set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6
set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6
set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1
set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0
set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2

as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz
to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx
using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL
from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I
already
have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I
really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same
suggestion
the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks
for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without
having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I
want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54
drivers
back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is
working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news
groups.
Yours truly
Ken Brown

-----Original Message-----

To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM
Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS

>Hello,
>I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few
suggestions.
>Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down.

>I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards
>higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set in
>the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change that.
>Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to
>believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo 2
>cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate
>screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a
>line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz.

>Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS)
>from http://www.racesimcentral.net/, try popping the case of your
>computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will
lower
>the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the
>lockups.

>Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any
>previous messages with your reply.
>Thanks,
>Chris- Sierra Tech

>> -----Original Message-----
>> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM
>> To: Hardware
>> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS

>> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS
>> Sound Blaster 64

>> more
>> Abit BX6 motherboard
>> Pll 333
>> Windows 95
>> Other
>> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this
>> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are
>> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which requires
>> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL.
I
>> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this
>> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me
>> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either. I
>> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify
>> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to
>> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown

by **Krilli** » Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:00:00

This doesn't set the clockrate at 90 its done by the registry or if u use
monsters slider its done by sliding the bar they provide although if u use
reference drivers u need to edit the registry :

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\3Dfx Interactive\Voodoo2\D3D\SSTV2_GRXCLK
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\3Dfx Interactive\Voodoo2\Glide\SSTV2_GRXCLK

U should be able to find all the other settings that u need to modify there
to..

if u want to increase the overclocking of the panel that diamond (or any
other manufacturer) provides u need to edit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Diamond\Monster 3D II\panel\PERFMAX and
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\Diamond\Monster 3D II\panel\PERFMIN

by **Iain Mackenzi** » Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:00:00

I really hope that they solve this soon, as it has been months now!
Iain

>Thought everyone would be interested in reading reply from Sierra about
>GPL lockups , so here is my message back to them there message to me and
>then
>my first message to them

>Thanks for the information and suggestions on my problem running GPL.
>To answer the first part of suggestion here is a copy of my autoexec.bat
>file

>C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1\SCAN.EXE C:\

>REM Environment Settings For McAfee VirusScan
>SET PATH=%PATH%;C:\PROGRA~1\NETWOR~1\MCAFEE~1
>Rem,"Added for Voodoo2"
>set SST_GRXCLK=90
>set SST_FT_CLK_DEL=0x4
>set SST_TF0_CLK_DEL=0x6
>set SST_TF1_CLK_DEL=0x6
>set SST_VIN_CLKDEL=0x1
>set SST_VOUT_CLKDEL=0x0
>set SST_TMUMEM_SIZE=2

>as you can see I am setting the speed of my Voodoo2 to 90 mhz
>to your second suggestion for using the reference drivers from 3dfx
>using Glide 2.53 drivers from this is the only way that I can keep GPL
>from locking up, if I use the Glide 2.54 drivers GPL will lockup . I
>already
>have a fan blowing on my Voodoo2 cards and the Pll33 also has a fan, I
>really don't think it is a over heating problem, this was the same
>suggestion
>the company that made Unreal gave for there software problem. Thanks
>for your help and I am looking forward to being able to play GPL without
>having to coping the Glide 2.53 drivers each time I want to play then if I
>want to Play your other game half-life I have too copy the Glide 2.54
>drivers
>back . People in the news groups will also be glad to know that Sierra is
>working on this problem, so I will post this reply to all the 3dfx news
>groups.
>Yours truly
>Ken Brown

>-----Original Message-----

>To: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Date: Monday, December 21, 1998 12:54 PM
>Subject: RE: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS

>>Hello,
>>I do not have a definite answer for you on this, but have a few
>suggestions.
>>Papyrus is currently working with 3Dfx to try to get this nailed down.

>>I can tell you that Diamond sets the clock speed of their Voodoo 2 cards
>>higher than any other manufacturer of Voodoo 2 cards. This factor is set
in
>>the registry, but unfortunately I do not know the exact way to change
that.
>>Since most Voodoo 2 problems are with the diamond cards, I am beginning to
>>believe that the clock speed has something to do with it. GPL uses Voodoo
2
>>cards in a way that no other game has, the mirrors are basically separate
>>screens, so it pushes the card harder than any other game. Drop Diamond a
>>line and ask them how you can lower your cards clock speed to 90 MHz.

>>Secondly, give the Voodoo 2 reference drivers (NOT THE DIRECTX 6 DRIVERS)
>>from http://www.3dfx.com/ a shot. Lastly, try popping the case of your
>>computer and pointing a table fan at your CPU/Voodoo 2 card. This will
>lower
>>the temperature of your system by at least 10 degrees and may stop the
>>lockups.

>>Please let us know if you need any further assistance, and include any
>>previous messages with your reply.
>>Thanks,
>>Chris- Sierra Tech

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From:xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 20, 1998 8:57 PM
>>> To: Hardware
>>> Subject: email form:GRAND PRIX LEGENDS

>>> GRAND PRIX LEGENDS
>>> Sound Blaster 64

>>> more
>>> Abit BX6 motherboard
>>> Pll 333
>>> Windows 95
>>> Other
>>> Game locks up in menu screen after starting , the only way to cure this
>>> problem is to install Glide 2.53 drivers When Glide 2.54 drivers are
>>> installed the game will lockup. Since I also have HalfLife which
requires
>>> Glide 2.54 I assume that Sierra should come out with a patch to fix GPL.
>I
>>> have noticed several people in the news groups that are having this
>>> problem and also 1 person in my Sunday School Class that was telling me
>>> his son had bought GPL and that it wouldn't run on his computer either.
I
>>> posted a message on all the 3dfx news groups saying that I would notify
>>> Sierra and that we should have a fix for this soon . Please advise as to
>>> when we can expect a patch for this game . Thanks Ken Brown

by **Gambler** » Wed, 23 Dec 1998 04:00:00

I run the glide 2.54 drivers from Diamonds site <12-1-98 version>
with win 98 and have NEVER had problems with the GPL game locking up
at all . I ran the 3dfx reference drivers and later the direct6 drivers also
with no problems before
updating the drivers . Of course I dont have the SLI setup you mention but
the reference drivers
for the sli from 3dfx were fine with my teammates when they ran it .
the problem may be something else . perhaps the 2d and 3d cards <3dfx> arent
set on the same
refresh rate in windows that can cause lockups . Of course results may vary
, but just wanted to toss
some ideas at you guys rather than see you wait around for a fix