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GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

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GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by . » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 07:16:53

Is anyone using the MX400 64Mb on a PIII?  Is it good enough for most sims,
including GPL and F1 2001?
Biz

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Biz » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:43:06

I have one and its adequate.  I bought it because of my budget, couldn't swing the extra $50 for the
GF3 Ti200 at the time.

--
Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash


> Is anyone using the MX400 64Mb on a PIII?  Is it good enough for most sims,
> including GPL and F1 2001?

Damien Smit

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Damien Smit » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 17:48:13

I've got one.  It's fine for GPL, but F12001 runs dramatically slower than
on a GF3.  It's still very playable, but it won't blow you away like, say, a
GF3 Ti200 (which isn't *that* much dearer)  I strongly recommend saving your
pennies for one of those instead...(I wish I had)

--
Damien Smith

ICQ: 77028579
F1 2001 rank: +27.680

Stephen Smit

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Stephen Smit » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:03:31

Brother Damien is correct.  An MX is fine for GPL, but marginal for F12001
(and a lotta other latter-day games).  A GF2 Ti would be better; probably a
good match for a 1 gig Athlon.  But to get any real satisfaction, go the
extra yard and getta 1.3 Athlon (or even Duron) and a GF3 Ti.  You won't be
sorry.

--Steve Smith


> > Is anyone using the MX400 64Mb on a PIII?  Is it good enough for most
> sims,
> > including GPL and F1 2001?

> I've got one.  It's fine for GPL, but F12001 runs dramatically slower than
> on a GF3.  It's still very playable, but it won't blow you away like, say,
a
> GF3 Ti200 (which isn't *that* much dearer)  I strongly recommend saving
your
> pennies for one of those instead...(I wish I had)

> --
> Damien Smith

> ICQ: 77028579
> F1 2001 rank: +27.680

Atom

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Atom » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 22:19:23


I was using a MX200 64Mb and with F1 2001 GT mod  I kept having texture
corruptions . With  Geforce GTS 32Mb now fitted the FIA GT mod runs a lot
quicker and without any corruptions at all . FPS after first corner is
usually around 50-70 with 15-20 cars . My CPU is a XP1600+

Cheers

A

rik zeppeli

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by rik zeppeli » Sun, 10 Feb 2002 23:41:03


and even worse for N4

Jim Teste

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Jim Teste » Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:04:30

I use the GeForce II MX400 32 meg on an ASUS A7V133-C board.  And a 1.3 gig
Thunderbird.

In N4, using OpenGL I get 50 to 60 fps's on the start of a race with a full
field and all the sliders all the way up.  After the field thins out I get
upwards of 70 fps's.  That's at a 124 X 768 resolution.

I have screen shots of the frame rates if there is any "Doubting Thomases"
out there.  ;-)

Jim




> > Brother Damien is correct.  An MX is fine for GPL, but marginal for
F12001
> > (and a lotta other latter-day games).

> and even worse for N4

rik zeppeli

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by rik zeppeli » Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:15:21


Sure, I get exactly the same on my 1.6. same card. same res. sliders at 75%
but ITS NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!  :)
I would like to run FSAA or a higher res.

John Pancoas

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by John Pancoas » Mon, 11 Feb 2002 00:19:24

  I'll second this; with a 1.4 P4 rig.  32 meg MX 400 does just fine in all
the games listed.  Eats up various flight sims too.

-John


> I use the GeForce II MX400 32 meg on an ASUS A7V133-C board.  And a 1.3
gig
> Thunderbird.

> In N4, using OpenGL I get 50 to 60 fps's on the start of a race with a
full
> field and all the sliders all the way up.  After the field thins out I get
> upwards of 70 fps's.  That's at a 124 X 768 resolution.

> I have screen shots of the frame rates if there is any "Doubting Thomases"
> out there.  ;-)

> Jim





> > > Brother Damien is correct.  An MX is fine for GPL, but marginal for
> F12001
> > > (and a lotta other latter-day games).

> > and even worse for N4

Damien Smit

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Damien Smit » Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:41:46

Sure, but there's no comparison to a GF3 - especially in F1 2001

Glockenspie

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Glockenspie » Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:08:47

Jim,

I don't doubt you one bit. I have a very similar rig (I only have a 1
gig T-bird) but I manage to get about 45-50 fps with everything maxed
in N4 in the same resolution. Same card, same board, I also have the
1005c bios and the 4in1 chipset drivers installed (Both a must IMHO).
I'm running my GF2 MX400 w/ the 23.11 drivers and stock clocks.

However, my new Gainward GF3 ti200 128 mb card is in the mail =) That
should help some with NR2002.

I too have screenshots to back up my statements.

Todd

On Sat, 9 Feb 2002 07:04:30 -0800, "Jim Tester"


>I use the GeForce II MX400 32 meg on an ASUS A7V133-C board.  And a 1.3 gig
>Thunderbird.

>In N4, using OpenGL I get 50 to 60 fps's on the start of a race with a full
>field and all the sliders all the way up.  After the field thins out I get
>upwards of 70 fps's.  That's at a 124 X 768 resolution.

>I have screen shots of the frame rates if there is any "Doubting Thomases"
>out there.  ;-)

>Jim





>> > Brother Damien is correct.  An MX is fine for GPL, but marginal for
>F12001
>> > (and a lotta other latter-day games).

>> and even worse for N4

Jim Teste

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Jim Teste » Wed, 13 Feb 2002 14:20:46

I'm also running the 23.11 drivers, and stock clocks.  I was wondering I
should upgrade the BIOS.   I hate messing with stuff that seems to be
working ok.  And what are the 4 in 1 chipset drivers?  Do I get those at the
ASUS site?

Thanks...

Jim


Glockenspie

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Glockenspie » Thu, 14 Feb 2002 05:00:23

The 4in1 drivers are for the Via chipset. Go to
http://www.viaarena.com/ and click on drivers. This is, of course,
only if you are running the Via chipset. The bios are very easy to
update. I was a bit anxious about doing it myself, but I printed out
the instructions from the website and it went very smoothly. That
solved some conflicts I was having with my mb and my SB Live value.
But like you said, it's probably best to leave good enough alone. If
you aren't having any problems, I would just leave it be.

Todd

On Mon, 11 Feb 2002 21:20:46 -0800, "Jim Tester"


>I'm also running the 23.11 drivers, and stock clocks.  I was wondering I
>should upgrade the BIOS.   I hate messing with stuff that seems to be
>working ok.  And what are the 4 in 1 chipset drivers?  Do I get those at the
>ASUS site?

>Thanks...

>Jim



>> Jim,

>> I don't doubt you one bit. I have a very similar rig (I only have a 1
>> gig T-bird) but I manage to get about 45-50 fps with everything maxed
>> in N4 in the same resolution. Same card, same board, I also have the
>> 1005c bios and the 4in1 chipset drivers installed (Both a must IMHO).
>> I'm running my GF2 MX400 w/ the 23.11 drivers and stock clocks.

Jim Teste

GeForce 2 MX400 good enough?

by Jim Teste » Thu, 14 Feb 2002 08:34:26

Hi Todd...

I went to the via site and downloaded the 4 in 1 drivers and installed them.
Might be a slight improvement, but not sure.

One question I have is concerning the BIOS settings.
Board is an ASUS A7V133-C
Memory is 256Megs/PC133.  And my CPU is and AMD 1.333 Tbird.  But when I to
the BIOS settings, I see that the:
CPU Clock Multiplier is set it 10.0x
CPU Frequency is set at 100 Mhz
DRAM Frequencey is set at 100 Mhz.

And a system test indicates that my CPU is only running at 1008 gigs.

I'm a bit apprehensive about changing any of the settings in the BIOS
because I don't know all that much about it.

Is there any sites out there that will have instructions on how to do that?

Or do any of you fine folks know how to do it?

Thanks...

Jim



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