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Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Well said...you took the words (or something similar!) right out of
my....er.....mouse!


> No, no!  You see, it's necessary to understand a post first, before
> commenting on it, one way or the other, Ronny boy.  Maybe you should re-read
> my post, pal, because I asked a question, besides blipping his diction.  I
> didn't get it -- got it?

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Ronald Stoe

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by Ronald Stoe » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00


> Well said...you took the words (or something similar!) right out of
> my....er.....mouse!

Hmm, taipping with yur maus, eh?

l8er
ronny

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Ronald Stoe

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by Ronald Stoe » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00


snip

> No, no!  You see, it's necessary to understand a post first, before
> commenting on it, one way or the other, Ronny boy.  Maybe you should re-read
> my post, pal, because I asked a question, besides blipping his diction.  I
> didn't get it -- got it?

Oh, racerNUT! You chose your name with care, didn't you?

I didn't comment your answer, just your blipping at his skills in
English.

l8er
ronny

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          |\      _,,,---,,_        I want to die like my Grandfather,
   ZZZzz /,`.-'`'    -.  ;-;;,_              in his sleep.
        |,4-  ) )-,_. ,\ (  `'-'     Not like the people in his car,
       '---''(_/--'  `-'\_)            screaming their heads off!

Hi Im B

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by Hi Im B » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00

OK, I've just read all 33 previous messages, and might as well pitch in my two
cents worth.  (tuppance, for all our British friends out there)  :o)

Someone asked where the spelling differences came from.  In school, I was
taught that when Noah Webster was writing his first American Dictionary (or is
it dictionEry?  At this point, I don't care -- get over it.), he decided that
some words contained unnecessary, silent vowels.  As this was a new, different
country, the language should reflect that, so he dropped them.

As was also pointed out, this IS an international medium, and although
conducted in English, it is not everyone's first language.  Allowances must be
made for non-standard spelling and grammer.  Take a lesson from those who use
sign language for communication with the deaf.  Getting the idea across is the
important thing, not the precise word order.

That said, the fact remains that the original post, spelling and/or grammatical
errors aside, was pretty much unintelligible rambling.  

It's a good thing The Pits isn't turning into another Microsoft.  Granted,
every computer would come with racing sims built in, but we would only be able
to run THOSE sims, and you would crash in the first turn, every race.

But, nobody would care, because that's just how things would be.

Bob

Goy Larse

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by Goy Larse » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00


> OK, I've just read all 33 previous messages, and might as well pitch in my two
> cents worth.  (tuppance, for all our British friends out there)  :o)

> Someone asked where the spelling differences came from.  In school, I was
> taught that when Noah Webster was writing his first American Dictionary (or is
> it dictionEry?  At this point, I don't care -- get over it.), he decided that
> some words contained unnecessary, silent vowels.  As this was a new, different
> country, the language should reflect that, so he dropped them.

And just to show that Jan Kohl has thought of this too, here is
something I clipped from a memo he sent out to different people in
strategic location around the world

Subject: EU Standard English

 Forget about Americnic, Ebonic, Clintonic

 The European Commission has announced an agreement
 whereby English will be the official language of the EU,
 rather than German, which was the other contender. Her
 Majesty's Government conceded that English spelling had
 room for improvement and has therefore accepted a five-year
 phasing in of "Euro-English".

 In the first year, "s" will replace the soft "c". Sertainly, this
 will make sivil servants jump for joy. The hard "c" will be
 dropped in favour of the "k", which should klear up some
 konfusion and allow one key less on keyboards.

 There will be growing publik enthusiasm in the sekond year,
 when the troublesome "ph" will be replaced with "f", making
 words like "fotograf" 20% shorter.

 In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling kan
 be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated
 changes are possible. Governments will enkourage the
 removal of double letters which have always ben a deterent
 to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre that the horible mes of
 the silent "e" is disgrasful.

 By the fourth yer, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such as
 replasing "th" with "z" and "w" with "v".

 During ze fifz yer, ze unesesary "o" kan be dropd from vords
 kontaining "ou" and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to
 ozer kombinations of leters. After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli
 sensibl riten styl. Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and
 everivun vil find it ezi to understand ech ozer.

 ZE DREM VIL FINALI KOM TRU !

I have a feeling Jan has some German ancestry, Kohl, hm, sounds German
doesn`t it

So the original poster IS right, but "The Pits" goes even further, they
are taking over the language as well

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
UncleGoy on TEN

ymenar

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by ymenar » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Mark F. wrote

Well, spend a day on making the tire grip for each track, if you ain't
happy.

"Oh but it's soo difficult".

*Plonk*

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- Excuse me for being provocative (I'm dumb speaking)
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kalebsg

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by kalebsg » Sun, 09 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Hello Mark,  Since I'm the ignorant individual that made the track, please
allow me to answer your question.  I originally edited the traction to be,
as you say, like dirt.  The problem I ran into is that editing the traction
in the trk file only affects the traction of the player car.  The AI cars
continue to run as if on Concrete.  While it was cool watching the player
car throw dirt in replays, it was certainly no enjoyment in being lapped a
dozen times in a 20 lap race.  Despite my best efforts at editing the txt
file (I'm no expert at the txt file mind you) I could never slow the AI
cars down to the player cars level.  So I suppose my short answer was, I
reduced the grip of the player car, but not to the level of dirt so that
one could race and be competitive.  My apologies if you didn't approve.  My
suggestion is to return the product right away, you see I provide a no
questions asked, unconditional, full refund on any product you don't like.
Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Why don't you look it up.....in your dictionary?!! :o)


> Noah Webster was writing his first American Dictionary (or is
> it dictionEry?  At this point, I don't care -- get over it.),

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Bruce.
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Bruce Kennewel

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by Bruce Kennewel » Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:00:00

Well, he *does* live in a country where English (or their version of it)
is the national language!!


> I didn't comment your answer, just your blipping at his skills in
> English.

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Bruce.
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Byron Forbe

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by Byron Forbe » Mon, 10 Aug 1998 04:00:00

I just downloaded LPEdit 4.3 with the replay thingo as well. That should help you.

   I have been testing things of this nature recently reguarding the N2 conversions for
ICR2. There are a couple of problems with this product that I found surprising in light of
the fact that it was a $15 product and the problems are fairly easy to fix, especially in
comparison to the overall project itself. They are ;

   1/ Tyre overheating - simply plug in the THEAT line into the track.txt from a similar
N1 converted track or whatever and bingo!

   2/ Slow pit speeds. Dover is at 37 mph which means using the alt-b as a rev limiter is
undesirable. This was easy to fix though. The N1 pit.lp file works perfectly. At other
tracks where there is no N1 counterpart, it would be a matter of using LPEdit 4.3 to fix
it. This looks to be a little time consuming (though I'm new to this so maybe it's easier
than I currently think), but compared to the overall project of the N2>ICR2 converter I
find it hard to understand why it was not done. Especially since ICR2's life is just about
to expire so even an update is getting too late, if not already.

   I realise the N2 converter is not relevant to you but I thought I'd throw it in for
interest and it seems inline with this thread. Not that I agree with the original posters
whining of course - especially about a free product.


> Hello Mark,  Since I'm the ignorant individual that made the track, please
> allow me to answer your question.  I originally edited the traction to be,
> as you say, like dirt.  The problem I ran into is that editing the traction
> in the trk file only affects the traction of the player car.  The AI cars
> continue to run as if on Concrete.  While it was cool watching the player
> car throw dirt in replays, it was certainly no enjoyment in being lapped a
> dozen times in a 20 lap race.  Despite my best efforts at editing the txt
> file (I'm no expert at the txt file mind you) I could never slow the AI
> cars down to the player cars level.  So I suppose my short answer was, I
> reduced the grip of the player car, but not to the level of dirt so that
> one could race and be competitive.  My apologies if you didn't approve.  My
> suggestion is to return the product right away, you see I provide a no
> questions asked, unconditional, full refund on any product you don't like.

Jim Sokolof

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by Jim Sokolof » Wed, 12 Aug 1998 04:00:00


> Well, what do you think of the above statement? Aint it true? A product to
> update NASCAR 2 for a tribute for NASCAR at 50 and yet they left out some
> major areas for improvement like traction?!?!? so damn easy for the Guys at
> Simulator ***World to edit after all their knowledge. All this is a mocary
> of Microsoft. Thats it.
>     It is true that the pits is turning to microsoft too... Just think about
> the major relationship, to release a piece of software that looks great, to
> be advertised a greatly, and doing a ok job at it just to find out the
> product details are horrible on such simple topics like riding on dirt like
> it's CONCRETE?!?!? Come on, the is full of bs......

Last I heard, they were offering a "double what you paid for it"
refund policy...

---Jim

Todd Hecke

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by Todd Hecke » Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:00:00


>Yup, folks, he definitely knows "Canadian".  But oot here in B.C., Todd,
even
>we don't know what an "arm pot" is -- please elaborate.  And you did spell
>"serviette" correctly, too.  Is your wife from Ontario, or the Maritimes,
eh?
>(Sorry, I try, but sometimes it still slips oot!)  Gotta go; my car has a
>flat tar and my igloo is burning down.<g>

Well, she was born in Victoria and raised in Montreal, if that tells you
anything.  And as near as I can tell an "arm pot" is some variation on "arm
pit," perhaps having something to do with the average size of a Canadian's
said cavities, hmm?  Maybe we've finally hit upon the definitive
anthropological difference between Canucks and Red-necks!!!! ;^)

Todd

Jim Dunph

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by Jim Dunph » Thu, 13 Aug 1998 04:00:00

You just cant please everyone! So mark what was your last contribution to
the game???? Other than ***ing??!!

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Jim Dunphy

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To err is human, to moo is bovine.



>> Well, what do you think of the above statement? Aint it true? A product
to
>> update NASCAR 2 for a tribute for NASCAR at 50 and yet they left out some
>> major areas for improvement like traction?!?!? so damn easy for the Guys
at
>> Simulator ***World to edit after all their knowledge. All this is a
mocary
>> of Microsoft. Thats it.
>>     It is true that the pits is turning to microsoft too... Just think
about
>> the major relationship, to release a piece of software that looks great,
to
>> be advertised a greatly, and doing a ok job at it just to find out the
>> product details are horrible on such simple topics like riding on dirt
like
>> it's CONCRETE?!?!? Come on, the is full of bs......

>Last I heard, they were offering a "double what you paid for it"
>refund policy...

>---Jim


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