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>>Eldred,
>>To get that kind of temp. drop he must have had the H/S Fan on wrong and
>>then after applying the A/S thermal paste put the H/S Fan on correctly.
>>There is no way Arctic Silver drops temps. by 35 degrees C. My 1.2 GHz.
>>Athlon runs at a steady 52 C. without acpi enabled on my KT7A-RAID mobo. but
>>it doesn't go any higher under full load either. I have a GlobalWin FOP-32
>>H/S Fan and use plain old Radio Shack white thermal paste. Your temps. do
>>sound extremely high... good luck.
>>Robin

>Agreed. I recently got some arctic silver, it dropped my temps by 2
>deg, but 35deg can only be by correcting a poorly attached heatsink.
>Pretty common on AMD chips, since they're such a small die. Often get
>lifted up slightly on the raised bit of the socket.

>Rafe Mc

>> I have an Antec case with 3 fans in it besides the power supply.  My system
>> temp is about 35.  A student here at work suggested something called Arctic
>> Silver.  I haven't ordered any yet...

>Even the best heat paste won't give you all that much Eldred, couple of
>degrees at most perhaps, basic thing, your system is way too hot at 79C,
>even if you run an ASUS MoBo which normally reports higher temps than
>most other boards 79C is way too hot, at least 10-15 degrees on an ASUS
>board, 25++ degrees on most other boards

>(Rafe and I've had this talk before...:-)

>Something's not right, and this thing is stable ?

>Are you sure that the HS is clamping down properly ?

>What kind of FAN/HS have you got, the 1 Ghz plus AMD's need a fair bit
>of cooling and the smaller HS's with a small quiet fan just won't do,
>you need something similar to this one

>http://www.globalwin.com.tw/cd_html.html

>The WBK68 is the smallest thing recommended for a 1.3 AMD, even the
>FOP68, which in itself is a pretty good product is not recommended past
>1.2 for AMD use, and I'm sure you'll find most other manufacturers has
>something similar on their website

> Phooey. :-(
> Which is why I hate removing and installing CPUs.  I'm always afraid I'm
going
> to***something up...

> Eldred
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> My HS and fan is....
> <opens cover on computer>
> ...wow - it's an Antec.  It's a twisted cylinder heatsink, about 3 inches tall,
> with the fan on the inside.  I don't remember the model name/number, and it's
> spare is still packed in a box somewhere, but it was HIGHLY recommended.  I'll
> check the URL you gave, and see how similar it is.
> Assuming the thing IS sufficient, that means it's probably not connected right.

>> My HS and fan is....
>> <opens cover on computer>
>> ...wow - it's an Antec.  It's a twisted cylinder heatsink, about 3 inches
>tall,
>> with the fan on the inside.  I don't remember the model name/number, and
>it's
>> spare is still packed in a box somewhere, but it was HIGHLY recommended.
>I'll
>> check the URL you gave, and see how similar it is.
>> Assuming the thing IS sufficient, that means it's probably not connected
>right.

>Well, Antec are supposed to be good, so assuming they installed the
>correct model/size for your CPU, it might be that the thing isn't making
>contact properly, because with a system temp of 35C, it looks like you
>have enough air flowing through your case

>Eldred,
>I was thinking about your temps. problem tonight while doing some late night
>ng reading and it occured to me that you haven't mentioned what make/model
>motherboard your 1.3GHz. Athlon is mounted on. I know when the KT7/KT7A
>boards from Abit first shipped there was problems with the thermistor not
>making correct contact with the underside of the cpu.
>You said in a previous post that this system has been running great and
>completely stable at 79 degrees. I know that AMD rates these Athlons to run
>at 90 degrees but that's a true internal core temp and not the "slightly"
>inaccurate readings we get from the thermistors on the motherboard that
>merely contacts the underside of the cpu and takes a reading. I think that
>if your system is running great it sounds like a bad reading from the temp.
>sensor on your motherboard. Especially if your system temp. is 35 degrees
>and you have all those fans moving air in your case. Something is wonky...
>somewhere.
>Just pure speculation at 1:00 in the morning.

>>Phooey. :-(
>>Which is why I hate removing and installing CPUs.  I'm always afraid I'm
>going
>>to***something up...

>>Eldred

>The instructions at the Arctic Silver website are SUPER comprehensive
>:) Probably overly so. The main points are to make sure you cover the
>die of the CPU with a complete but thin layer of paste, align the
>heatsink properly and then clamp it evenly (without rocking it which
>may damage the die).