rec.autos.simulators

by **Daniel Batem** » Sat, 26 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>hmm, you make it sound like 3Dfx has such a margin of compatibility
>supperieority. GPL is the only one I know of. (Not to say they aren't out
>there, but in recent game (1999 or newer) you are pretty much guerenteed D3D
>support.

I tried to live with an AGP Riva128 as my only card, and believe me, not
having 3dfx is a problem. I had lots of fun on Quake-engine games, but
many games require 3dfx to run at their bestm, so I didn't even bother buying
them. Now I've added a Voodoo2 SLI setup, so I can support whatever they
throw at me. For the forseeable future, at least.

So, my advice is get a TNT AND 1 or 2 Voodoos, that way you support
Direct3d, OpenGL, and Glide.

Dan

by **Larr** » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Uh, no.

Just because you couldn't install N2's Vesa drivers, didn't mean it
wasn't there.

Vesa support is in the _hardware_ on cards these days. No software
needed.

-Larry

> I will add my experience to this old thread. I had a TNT in my
> computer and found it would not run nascar in Multi Player because of
> no VESA support. Now I know this has already been hashed over, but
> hey, it might save someone from an expensive mistake. IMHO

by **Larr** » Tue, 29 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Would that really be a bad thing?

I sometimes wonder :)

-Larry

> If the game makers did what you recommend, we would still
> be playing DOS games.

> LOL!

by **Larr** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Jeez, eat a snowball my friend...

How about this.

I haven't installed a Vesa driver in 2 years, and it works out just
fine. I haven't owned a video card in several years that needed
seperate software installed to support Vesa.

If you are running 10 year old hardware, well, that's another story.

Lighten up! It's shit like this that destroys the news groups. Talk to
people like you would if you were standing face to face with them, not
3000 miles away :)

-Larry

> You cal me a liar? YOu are full of shit bud, there are some video
> cards that do not have the VESA support needed to run some programs.
> Sci-tech made a business out of selling a programs to add some VESA
> support for some video cards, but not all. larry, go learn a bit more
> about a subject before you try to BS us! Thank you.

by **Larr** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

This is why I keep my Monster II occupying a PCI slot, and might even
get another one for SLI mode if I can find one cheap.

The Asus V3800 TNT2 card I have takes care of 95% of my needs, though.

-Larry

> I tried to live with an AGP Riva128 as my only card, and believe me, not
> having 3dfx is a problem.

by **Jason Mond** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Ahh, thanks for the information about no VESA support. I told someone that
my G200 works in ICR2 and N2, blah blah blah, but it has documented VESA
support up to 800x600 without extra software. Makes me like Matrox, for 2D,
even more after hearing this.

Jason.

> the TNT's I
> owned ((2 of them) on pentium systems) did not have VESA support for
> running NASCAR99. The NASCAR99 game worked but not in Multi player
> mode which needed VESA to work. This was true of NASCAR2 also which
> needed VESA support.

Jason Monds
"My other car is a Ferrari"
http://members.home.net/gpl.mondsj/gpl - For my combined gas/brake setups
(Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

That's not what I did, and you know it.

You obviously like to rant off on people in newsgroups. I don't play
that game.

I'm just here to learn as much as possible, and help as much as
possible. Not argue with the likes of you.

Enjoy yourself, but leave me out of this nonsense...

Plonk me if you wish. I really don't care :)

-Larry

> Look dude, you cannot spread false and misleading information in a
> public forum without someone that knows the truth bringing it to your
> attention.

by **Larr** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Thank you, Jason. Maybe a particular person will take note of your
posting as well :)

-Larry

> Ahh, thanks for the information about no VESA support. I told someone that
> my G200 works in ICR2 and N2, blah blah blah, but it has documented VESA
> support up to 800x600 without extra software. Makes me like Matrox, for 2D,
> even more after hearing this.

> Jason.

by **Nathan Wo** » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00

>That's not what I did, and you know it.

>You obviously like to rant off on people in newsgroups. I don't play
>that game.

>I'm just here to learn as much as possible, and help as much as
>possible. Not argue with the likes of you.

>Enjoy yourself, but leave me out of this nonsense...

>Plonk me if you wish. I really don't care :)

>-Larry

Dont worry about him Larry. He doesnt even know the difference between
a Voodoo card, a Banshee and a Voodoo2....

--
Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors
- Super Touring - Alfa Romeo -

- V8Supercars - CART -

by **Larr** » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Ah, otay. Thanks :)

-Larry

> Dont worry about him Larry. He doesnt even know the difference between
> a Voodoo card, a Banshee and a Voodoo2....

> --
> Nathan Wong http://www.nectar.com.au/~alfacors
> - Super Touring - Alfa Romeo -

> - V8Supercars - CART -

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