rec.autos.simulators

GP3..........

Sam Daniel

GP3..........

by Sam Daniel » Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:00:00

How on earth have they managed to impliment Force feedback with just a month
of development time to go before it goes 'gold' ?
I think that they are holding back alot of other things that could have been
in GP3. This is because we will all go and buy GP3, and then in November or
December we will go out again and Buy GP4 with the 'added' features of
decent Internet play, pace car etc etc. I think that this is just so that
they can sell truck loads more of the sim.

If that is the case i dont care, because i just cant wait ;)))))))))))))

SING WITH ME ......

I'm so e***d, and i just can't hide it. I'm about to loose control, and I
think i like it..........

The Pointer Sisters i think....:)
Ben
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Simon Brow

GP3..........

by Simon Brow » Wed, 07 Jun 2000 04:00:00

The question about the quality of the FF effects is only going to be
answered when GP3 is released.  But it's not like they've only just started
working on it, they had tried FF before for a long time (from a Nick Court
quote) and couldn't get it exactly how they wanted it.  So it's a case of
fine tuning, not adding a new feature.
Slic

GP3..........

by Slic » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I'm more worried about the following from the GP3 section at
http://www.racesimcentral.net/

-Features which will not be added GP3, but will be added to Grand Prix 4 or
future games

Support for more than 4 player LAN mode
Catch fencing and more 'tiny' details
Longer replays (full replay system)--------------------- Even now when
people have tons of RAM!!!
Better timing system (as seen in TV)----------------- and how is the timing
system?
Radio messages---------------------------------------------- a standard
thing in today's sims!
Internet play---------------------------------------------------- ?
Animated pit crew and TV cameras on pits--------- Well it seems that all the
shity sims have them....
Safety car-------------------------------------------------------- Why the
hell not?
Red flags--------------------------------------------------------- Who needs
them right?
Stop and go penalties---------------------------------------Realism?
Formation lap--------------------------------------------------- Ok I can
live without that...
Jump starts----------------------------------------------------- Realism?
Own carshape for each team----------------------------- Pat painter will fix
that and the 3rd party possie!
Ability to look left or right from***pit view just like in many other
sims---Why not?
Starting driving career as a test driver and then moving to better
teams-----?
Livery editor----- It seems to me that it'll miss all the little things that
make a great game even greater!

Oli
BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu


Jo Hels

GP3..........

by Jo Hels » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00


>I'm more worried about the following from the GP3 section at
>http://www.racesimcentral.net/

>-Features which will not be added GP3, but will be added to Grand Prix 4 or
>future games

This list is HIGHLY speculative. But anyway:

1) Seems indeed that they haven't taken a *serious* look at multiplay
yet.. Possible reason: they need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely
on the same engine!

2) might still be in finalised tracks?

3) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

4) Subjective

5) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

6) FIA doesn't allow it -or- They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based
largely on the same engine! -and/or- they haven't taken a *serious*
look at multiplay yet

7)They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
-or- rather than making it look shitty or pre-rendered, they choose to
leave it out

8) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
-and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right

9) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

10) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
-and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right

11) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
-and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right (F12000
anyone?)

12) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

13) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
-and/or- GP3 is a "base" system that takes preserving resources into
account so people with older systems CAN run it after turning off
options

BTW: it's unlikely that this can be fixed by 3rd party. They can
probably CHANGE the carshapes after a while, but not extend the number
of different shapes used by the game!

14) design choice

15) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
-and/or- it's too early for role-playing elements in serious
racingsims

16) they know hackers will take care of this -and/or- They need to
sell a GP4 and GP5, representing different seasons, based largely on
the same engine! So why sink their own ships?  :-)

Regards,

JoH

Michael E. Carve

GP3..........

by Michael E. Carve » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00


% >Internet play---------------------------------------------------- ?

% 6) FIA doesn't allow it -or- They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based
% largely on the same engine! -and/or- they haven't taken a *serious*
% look at multiplay yet

All of the licensed F1 sims coming out have internet play, so Bernie
would say we won't let the best possible f1 sim to have internet play.
That's how he will keep the sim racing field even.  Go with the latter
and I think we are close....  Basically Geoff couldn't code it.

--
**************************** Michael E. Carver *************************
     Upside out, or inside down...False alarm the only game in town.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=<[ /./.  [-  < ]>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Jo Hels

GP3..........

by Jo Hels » Thu, 08 Jun 2000 04:00:00

On Wed, 07 Jun 2000 13:52:52 GMT, "Michael E. Carver"



>% >Internet play---------------------------------------------------- ?

>% 6) FIA doesn't allow it -or- They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based
>% largely on the same engine! -and/or- they haven't taken a *serious*
>% look at multiplay yet

>All of the licensed F1 sims coming out have internet play, so Bernie
>would say we won't let the best possible f1 sim to have internet play.
>That's how he will keep the sim racing field even.  Go with the latter
>and I think we are close....  Basically Geoff couldn't code it.

-or- Bernie $$$ asked $$$.$$$.$$$.$$$ to implement Internet-play  :-)

JoH

Slic

GP3..........

by Slic » Sat, 10 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I just hope it has fair physics that's all!
--------------------Do not cut and past------------------------
Cheers,
Oli
BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu



> >I'm more worried about the following from the GP3 section at
> >http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> >-Features which will not be added GP3, but will be added to Grand Prix 4
or
> >future games

> This list is HIGHLY speculative. But anyway:

> >Support for more than 4 player LAN mode

> 1) Seems indeed that they haven't taken a *serious* look at multiplay
> yet.. Possible reason: they need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely
> on the same engine!

> >Catch fencing and more 'tiny' details

> 2) might still be in finalised tracks?

> >Longer replays (full replay system)--------------------- Even now when
> >people have tons of RAM!!!

> 3) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> >Better timing system (as seen in TV)----------------- and how is the
timing
> >system?

> 4) Subjective

> >Radio messages---------------------------------------------- a standard
> >thing in today's sims!

> 5) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> >Internet play---------------------------------------------------- ?

> 6) FIA doesn't allow it -or- They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based
> largely on the same engine! -and/or- they haven't taken a *serious*
> look at multiplay yet

> >Animated pit crew and TV cameras on pits--------- Well it seems that all
the
> >shity sims have them....

> 7)They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> -or- rather than making it look shitty or pre-rendered, they choose to
> leave it out

> >Safety car-------------------------------------------------------- Why
the
> >hell not?

> 8) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> -and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right

> >Red flags--------------------------------------------------------- Who
needs
> >them right?

> 9) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> >Stop and go penalties---------------------------------------Realism?

> 10) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> -and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right

> >Formation lap--------------------------------------------------- Ok I can
> >live without that...

> 11) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> -and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right (F12000
> anyone?)

> >Jump starts----------------------------------------------------- Realism?

> 12) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> >Own carshape for each team----------------------------- Pat painter will
fix
> >that and the 3rd party possie!

> 13) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> -and/or- GP3 is a "base" system that takes preserving resources into
> account so people with older systems CAN run it after turning off
> options

> BTW: it's unlikely that this can be fixed by 3rd party. They can
> probably CHANGE the carshapes after a while, but not extend the number
> of different shapes used by the game!

> >Ability to look left or right from***pit view just like in many other
> >sims---Why not?

> 14) design choice

> >Starting driving career as a test driver and then moving to better
> >teams-----?

> 15) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> -and/or- it's too early for role-playing elements in serious
> racingsims

> >Livery editor----- It seems to me that it'll miss all the little things
that
> >make a great game even greater!

> 16) they know hackers will take care of this -and/or- They need to
> sell a GP4 and GP5, representing different seasons, based largely on
> the same engine! So why sink their own ships?  :-)

> Regards,

> JoH

m.seer

GP3..........

by m.seer » Sun, 11 Jun 2000 04:00:00

'Ere. who let you in here Ollie? This is where the winners of the faction
wars hang out.

Get back to your own play pen <G>

MS


> I just hope it has fair physics that's all!
> --------------------Do not cut and past------------------------
> Cheers,
> Oli
> BEOROCKET Racing: www.beorocket.co.yu




> > >I'm more worried about the following from the GP3 section at
> > >http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > >-Features which will not be added GP3, but will be added to Grand Prix
4
> or
> > >future games

> > This list is HIGHLY speculative. But anyway:

> > >Support for more than 4 player LAN mode

> > 1) Seems indeed that they haven't taken a *serious* look at multiplay
> > yet.. Possible reason: they need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely
> > on the same engine!

> > >Catch fencing and more 'tiny' details

> > 2) might still be in finalised tracks?

> > >Longer replays (full replay system)--------------------- Even now when
> > >people have tons of RAM!!!

> > 3) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> > >Better timing system (as seen in TV)----------------- and how is the
> timing
> > >system?

> > 4) Subjective

> > >Radio messages---------------------------------------------- a standard
> > >thing in today's sims!

> > 5) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> > >Internet play---------------------------------------------------- ?

> > 6) FIA doesn't allow it -or- They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based
> > largely on the same engine! -and/or- they haven't taken a *serious*
> > look at multiplay yet

> > >Animated pit crew and TV cameras on pits--------- Well it seems that
all
> the
> > >shity sims have them....

> > 7)They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> > -or- rather than making it look shitty or pre-rendered, they choose to
> > leave it out

> > >Safety car-------------------------------------------------------- Why
> the
> > >hell not?

> > 8) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> > -and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right

> > >Red flags--------------------------------------------------------- Who
> needs
> > >them right?

> > 9) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> > >Stop and go penalties---------------------------------------Realism?

> > 10) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> > -and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right

> > >Formation lap--------------------------------------------------- Ok I
can
> > >live without that...

> > 11) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> > -and/or- needs a lot of dedication to get it exactly right (F12000
> > anyone?)

> > >Jump starts-----------------------------------------------------
Realism?

> > 12) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!

> > >Own carshape for each team----------------------------- Pat painter
will
> fix
> > >that and the 3rd party possie!

> > 13) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> > -and/or- GP3 is a "base" system that takes preserving resources into
> > account so people with older systems CAN run it after turning off
> > options

> > BTW: it's unlikely that this can be fixed by 3rd party. They can
> > probably CHANGE the carshapes after a while, but not extend the number
> > of different shapes used by the game!

> > >Ability to look left or right from***pit view just like in many other
> > >sims---Why not?

> > 14) design choice

> > >Starting driving career as a test driver and then moving to better
> > >teams-----?

> > 15) They need to sell a GP4 and GP5 based largely on the same engine!
> > -and/or- it's too early for role-playing elements in serious
> > racingsims

> > >Livery editor----- It seems to me that it'll miss all the little things
> that
> > >make a great game even greater!

> > 16) they know hackers will take care of this -and/or- They need to
> > sell a GP4 and GP5, representing different seasons, based largely on
> > the same engine! So why sink their own ships?  :-)

> > Regards,

> > JoH


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