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NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

RD

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by RD » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I downloaded the nascar2000 demo . It looks very similar to Nascar
Revolution .
Only a few things improved: handling is a little bit better,***pit view
better than
that 'am i driving 30mph' feeling of Nascar revolution, there is (a better)
damage model.
Unfortunatley, with my PII 400 and voodoo3 it still doesn't run very fluid.
I give it a 4 out of 10, Not worth buying.

Remco Denessen

OpenG

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by OpenG » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Odd - I thought the gfx were ALOT better than Nascar Revolution. As for
the framerate - I'm running SLI on a P3-450 and it was smooth all around
the track - even with all the cars on the screen.
Also - the handling seems to be much improved although I think the car
bounces too much now. I'd give it a bit more - maybe a 7 out of 10.


says...

ymenar

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by ymenar » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00


I have to say...

Nascar 2000 has to be one of the poorest demo I have ever, ever tried.  It
goes along with the <insert X racing game> poor demos of 1999.  Everything
is bad, the color palette is wrong, you think your playing Quake 2.  Poor 3d
effect, or over-used.  Poor track detail or accuracy.  Good sound, poor
setup choice (could not change anything).  Poor gameplay, confusing system
of helps (clearly not as good as the Fxx functions that Papyrus developed).
Poor AI, poor physics.  It's an arcade game, and for an arcade game it's
poor.  I rate it at 2 out of 10, because I feel pity for the developers.

Another EA trash. And it doesn't even stand as a good arcade game.

Let's hope we don't have to talk much about this game on r.a.s.

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Alan Orto

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Alan Orto » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I think the demo is in arcade mode and not Sim mode. I hear the sim mode
physics are comparable Viper Racing, I hope so, but for some reason I
doubt it.

> Odd - I thought the gfx were ALOT better than Nascar Revolution. As for
> the framerate - I'm running SLI on a P3-450 and it was smooth all around
> the track - even with all the cars on the screen.
> Also - the handling seems to be much improved although I think the car
> bounces too much now. I'd give it a bit more - maybe a 7 out of 10.


> says...
> > I downloaded the nascar2000 demo . It looks very similar to Nascar
> > Revolution .
> > Only a few things improved: handling is a little bit better,***pit view
> > better than
> > that 'am i driving 30mph' feeling of Nascar revolution, there is (a better)
> > damage model.
> > Unfortunatley, with my PII 400 and voodoo3 it still doesn't run very fluid.
> > I give it a 4 out of 10, Not worth buying.

> > Remco Denessen

Moezill

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Moezill » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

They claim the physics model is better but after playing the demo and
EA's past track record with NR I'm not about ready to rely on their
marketing spiel.

It seems to be nothing more than NR with some tweaks for frame rates,
force feedback still sucks and bogs the system down like mad and the
track graphics are not all that great. The cars are the best ever, would
love to see Papy incorporate cars like these in N4. AI plays ya more
like demolition derby than real drivers, maybe they took the AI from
NASCAR Rumble. :) AI is about as challenging as a field of old lady
drivers, they mainly line up in double file to only give you obstacles
to drive around and then they smack into you and cause those oh so
ridiculous flip inducing wrecks.

If this is supposed to be NASCAR 2000, then why does Stewart still have
a rookie stripe on his bumper? Seems they're as behind the times in cars
as they are with the game. At this point the game looks like the same
game in new clothing, only thing that could possibly save it would be a
good physics model in the sim mode otherwise it's another bust for EA.


> I think the demo is in arcade mode and not Sim mode. I hear the sim mode
> physics are comparable Viper Racing, I hope so, but for some reason I
> doubt it.


> > Odd - I thought the gfx were ALOT better than Nascar Revolution. As for
> > the framerate - I'm running SLI on a P3-450 and it was smooth all around
> > the track - even with all the cars on the screen.
> > Also - the handling seems to be much improved although I think the car
> > bounces too much now. I'd give it a bit more - maybe a 7 out of 10.


> > says...
> > > I downloaded the nascar2000 demo . It looks very similar to Nascar
> > > Revolution .
> > > Only a few things improved: handling is a little bit better,***pit view
> > > better than
> > > that 'am i driving 30mph' feeling of Nascar revolution, there is (a better)
> > > damage model.
> > > Unfortunatley, with my PII 400 and voodoo3 it still doesn't run very fluid.
> > > I give it a 4 out of 10, Not worth buying.

> > > Remco Denessen

Stif

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Stif » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

I like some of the things they have (mainly eye candy) like the donut marks
left on the cars. The wrecks seem "canned" and a little bit over zealous.
The pit crew is cool (animated). I like the way the car rolls (it may roll a
bit too much). And to be honest I liked the graphics and the idea of "car
skins". Meaning that it will be able to have custom/real cars. I never tried
NR so I have no idea what to compare it too. It is along way from N3 but not
too bad in my opinion. I would have liked to set up the car and to try it on
a road course to get a real impression of it.
Al Stiff
John Courtn

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by John Courtn » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Hi,
    Does Atlanta have that many huge bumps?  The only neat thing I saw
was that you could see your pit crew working the car (and that may have
even been in Nascar Revolution, didn't play that long enough to look!)  I
had heard that N2000 would be better so I tried it, all I can say is it
better have a damn good sim mode!  Try steering while you hit those
bumps, it sounds more like a plane touching the tarmac during landing
than a car (screenh! screech! :) )  I found the graphics kind of "grainy"
too.

John

Kevi

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Kevi » Sun, 27 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Much better than nascar rev.
    -good sound
    -Nice graphics and eye candy eventhough a little grainy
    -Handling OK, hopefully its better in sim mode
    -I wish it had this years cars and correct drivers
Slic

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Slic » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Please note that he said a PII on 400!

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Dan Clarke/Operation Sport

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Dan Clarke/Operation Sport » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00



If I'm not mistaken, I believe Activision's "Grand Prix" for the Atari
2600 was better than NASCAR Revolution.
--
Dan Clarke
Managing Editor
Operation Sports
http://www.operationsports.com
Moezill

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Moezill » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Yea, the graphics are grainy at least on a TNT2. Maybe they're better on
a V3, but overall I wasn't drolling over them. Pit crew was in NR too,
it's a nice addition and it would be nice to see Papy add that in N4 but
it's not a necessity.

> Hi,
>     Does Atlanta have that many huge bumps?  The only neat thing I saw
> was that you could see your pit crew working the car (and that may have
> even been in Nascar Revolution, didn't play that long enough to look!)  I
> had heard that N2000 would be better so I tried it, all I can say is it
> better have a damn good sim mode!  Try steering while you hit those
> bumps, it sounds more like a plane touching the tarmac during landing
> than a car (screenh! screech! :) )  I found the graphics kind of "grainy"
> too.

> John

Moezill

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Moezill » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Funny thing is they have Little E in there but they decided to keep
Stewart in there as a rookie for 2000. Notice the yellow rookie stripes
on his bumper?

> Much better than nascar rev.
>     -good sound
>     -Nice graphics and eye candy eventhough a little grainy
>     -Handling OK, hopefully its better in sim mode
>     -I wish it had this years cars and correct drivers

Moezill

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Moezill » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Yea, that one was years ahead of NR. :)



> > Much better than nascar rev.
> >     -good sound
> >     -Nice graphics and eye candy eventhough a little grainy
> >     -Handling OK, hopefully its better in sim mode
> >     -I wish it had this years cars and correct drivers

> If I'm not mistaken, I believe Activision's "Grand Prix" for the Atari
> 2600 was better than NASCAR Revolution.
> --
> Dan Clarke
> Managing Editor
> Operation Sports
> http://www.operationsports.com

Morgan VW

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Morgan VW » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

What in the hell are these cars riding on? Seems like they'd bounce clean off
the track if you're not careful. Another silly arcade racer.

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Moezill

NASCAR2000 SHORT IMPRESSION

by Moezill » Mon, 28 Feb 2000 04:00:00

Yea, it seems they wanted to get the bouncing effect in the game but
went way overboard and now we have the 'waverunner effect'. You got that
right, another silly arcade racer...

> What in the hell are these cars riding on? Seems like they'd bounce clean off
> the track if you're not careful. Another silly arcade racer.

> --
> -----------------------------------
> Morgan Vincent Wooten

> http://www.racesimcentral.net/~morganv/
> -----------------------------------



> > I downloaded the nascar2000 demo . It looks very similar to Nascar
> > Revolution .
> > Only a few things improved: handling is a little bit better,***pit view
> > better than
> > that 'am i driving 30mph' feeling of Nascar revolution, there is (a better)
> > damage model.
> > Unfortunatley, with my PII 400 and voodoo3 it still doesn't run very fluid.
> > I give it a 4 out of 10, Not worth buying.

> > Remco Denessen


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