rec.autos.simulators

by **Kevin Gavit** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:27:06

> > > What I found really cool was that it appears that you can race the
> > > tracks at various times, from morning (see the fog still***
> > > around) then evening ( lighting looks like the sun setting)

> > > The first shot looks like the NSX is racing during mid day, the second
> > > shot with the Mclaren looks like morning with the fog, the third shot
> > > (don't know the car) looks like evening with sun setting.

> > The second car is a WSC Panoz, the third is a GTP Mazda that won LeMans.

> > KFG

> The third is a Group C Mercedes isn't it?

> looks very nice too :)

> Alex

Ummmm, why yes, it is. : )

You have to admit that it looks DAMN like the Mazda though.

KFG

by **Todd Walk** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 05:47:31

Yeah, I was gonna ask when Mazda abandoned their new "flying M" symbol
in favor of the three pointed star ;-)

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On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 20:27:06 GMT, "Kevin Gavitt"

>Ummmm, why yes, it is. : )

>You have to admit that it looks DAMN like the Mazda though.

>KFG

by **Cliff Roma** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 08:20:40

Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow?

I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the replay
(TV) view, they look like they are driving slow.

> its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss

> the track detail is amazing !!!!!!

> http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

by **Thom j** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 09:06:40

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by **Kevin Gavit** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 12:37:00

And don't the cars often look like they're driving slow when you watch them
on TV?

KFG

by **Andre Warrin** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 17:48:42

I didn't have this feeling Cliff.. to me the speed seemed very
natural, and I found the movie VERY impressive.
I wasn't too impressed with the screenshots released a couple of weeks
ago, but this movie turned me too into a WSC believer.. :)

I had problems with the feeling of speed in Nascar 4 and had a
discussion here about it. From then on I started to focus more on the
feeling of speed in a real car. And yes, if you only look to the
objects outside and eliminate the feeling of speed you have because of
the movement you make, it DOES look very slow..
Feeling of speed is very hard to simulate on a computer I think. Maybe
things have to move a tad faster on a pc to give the same sense of
speed as we have in real life..

Andre

by **Ashley McConnel** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:05:39

I think it might be to do with peripheral vision, perhaps this is why F355
with 3 screens feels much more intense than the 1 screen version in the
arcade.

Ash

| Feeling of speed is very hard to simulate on a computer I think. Maybe
| things have to move a tad faster on a pc to give the same sense of
| speed as we have in real life..
|
| Andre

by **Cliff Roma** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:39:15

Not to me..

> > Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow?

> > I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the
> replay
> > (TV) view, they look like they are driving slow.

> And don't the cars often look like they're driving slow when you watch
them
> on TV?

> KFG

by **Cliff Roma** » Fri, 15 Jun 2001 21:39:44

I think it is due to the fact there is no sound in that movie..

Maybe that is just throwing my senses off a little bit

> >Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow?

> >I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the
replay
> >(TV) view, they look like they are driving slow.

> I didn't have this feeling Cliff.. to me the speed seemed very
> natural, and I found the movie VERY impressive.
> I wasn't too impressed with the screenshots released a couple of weeks
> ago, but this movie turned me too into a WSC believer.. :)

> I had problems with the feeling of speed in Nascar 4 and had a
> discussion here about it. From then on I started to focus more on the
> feeling of speed in a real car. And yes, if you only look to the
> objects outside and eliminate the feeling of speed you have because of
> the movement you make, it DOES look very slow..
> Feeling of speed is very hard to simulate on a computer I think. Maybe
> things have to move a tad faster on a pc to give the same sense of
> speed as we have in real life..

> Andre

by **Craig Jone** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 06:40:57

Wot no tyre smoke??

> its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss

> the track detail is amazing !!!!!!

> http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

by **Imar de Vrie** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:01:07

> Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow?

> I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the replay
> (TV) view, they look like they are driving slow.

The cars are moving slow, that's for sure. But that has more to do with the
testdriver than with the sense of speed in WSC, in my opinion. You can clearly
see at some points that the person who drove the cars was not pushing them at
all.
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by **(Rich#8** » Sat, 16 Jun 2001 21:24:35

GT3 looks tip top, but with a max of only 6 cars (and no incar view)
it better look good!!!

Yup I noticed the redraw in the background as well (way in the
background) since its far behind the car it did'nt bother me much,
what was even more bothersome (atleast to me) was the clipping of the
car shadow into the pavement.

But alas I realize what we are seeing is an unfinished product.

GT3 blows GPL out of the universe in the visual department, (this all
men know) but when it comes to simulating real world physics GT3 is
just a dumb blonde !! LOL

You must ask yourself, do you want short term or long term
gratification? Sure GT3 looks good but will you be playing it in 3
years?

The best sim to ever come out on a console was Ferrari F355 on the
DreamCast, eye popping graphics with GPL physics, the arcade version
of this game with 3 monitors is amazing, if you haven' played this sim
yet,, check it out !!!

Though once complete I firmly believe that WSC will rival GT3 in the
graphics department and have better AI and of course there is no need
to discuss physics ;-)

>>its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss

>>the track detail is amazing !!!!!!

>>http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

>Something disturbing about the graphics -- you can see the distant objects
>being drawn or removed, depending if you are approaching or going away from
>them, kinda similar to Colin McRae Rally ( one ) but not as severe -- not what
>I expected from a brand new game engine.

>I thought the Gran Turismo 3 movies were much more impressive, the environment
>looked much more realistic:
>http://firingsquad.gamers.com/games/gt3/gallery2.asp

>It may not be a sim, but looks like fun.

by **Dave Henri** » Sun, 17 Jun 2001 09:41:02

> The cars are moving slow, that's for sure. But that has more to do with
the
> testdriver than with the sense of speed in WSC, in my opinion. You can
clearly
> see at some points that the person who drove the cars was not pushing them
at
> all.
> --

Hey! Hey! "I" was NOT driving!!!!
dave henrie

by **Jan Verschuere** » Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:00:50

You'e getting paranoid about your driving Dave.

Jan.
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by **Tim** » Sun, 17 Jun 2001 07:15:58

<snip>

Rich#8

Did F355 for Dreamcast have a***pit view, or a hood view?
(I like both)
I hate bumpercam, which is why I don't like the GTurismo games.

Tim

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