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Sweet LAN-party rig!

Steve Smit

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Steve Smit » Tue, 26 Aug 2003 11:08:00

I feel guilty reporting good news here - everybody on r.a.s. seems bitterly
embroiled on one side or the other of the RASCAR Wars, but....

I just got one of those little Falcon NW "Fragbox" LAN-party 'putas: $995
for a foot-square cube containing a 2.66-GHz P4 w 533 FSB, an eVGA GeForce
FX5600 Ultra, 80-Gb 7200-rpm, 8-Mb cache HD, 512 RAM, XP Home, built-in 5.1
sound w. digital I/O, 10/100 Ethernet, Firewire, USB 2.0, etc.  It runs

everywhere).

Revu here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Company info here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Also, a Dell 1800FP, the best-reviewed 18-in. flat-panel (no ghosting, no
dead pixels).

Forum discussion (of the larger, less-well-regarded 1900FP) here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Company info here:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

(The $529 price is for suckers; if you can wheel n' deal, it can be had for
a hundred bucks less.)

Plus a vintage ROC-built Logitech Wingman Formula Force (aka "Ol' Red") with
the ball-bearing kit installed by Alison Hine (SWEET!) with the piece of
resistance (as we say in French), a pair of ECCI E3000 pedals:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

The pedals are incredible.  Sure, they look like they came off a combine or
an 18-wheeler (and built like the proverbial brick sh*thouse), but they are
delicate enuf to "threshold" the brakes just shy of lockup.  Yields an
incredible feeling of control.

What can I say?  RASCAR aside, life is good.

--Steve

Joachim Trens

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Joachim Trens » Tue, 26 Aug 2003 16:55:10

Congrats on that nice new rig, and thanks for sharing the info! Now will we
see you shooting us out of the skies in IL2 anytime soon? ;-)

Achim


...

> I just got one of those little Falcon NW "Fragbox" LAN-party 'putas: $995
> for a foot-square cube containing a 2.66-GHz P4 w 533 FSB, an eVGA GeForce
> FX5600 Ultra, 80-Gb 7200-rpm, 8-Mb cache HD, 512 RAM, XP Home, built-in
5.1
> sound w. digital I/O, 10/100 Ethernet, Firewire, USB 2.0, etc.  It runs

> everywhere).

...
Ed Solhei

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 01:29:50

"Steve Smith" said:

How do you heel 'n toe with those? ;o)

--
ed_

Steve Smit

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Steve Smit » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 05:42:52

For Cup car racing, it's not exactly realistic.  Think modern F1s, the
Chaparral 2, even the old two-pedal Sadler Special (if yer mem goes back
that far).

Point of order: I've never driven a '67 F1 car nor a latterday NASCAR, but
am I the only one that's noticed you can shift 2-3 times faster in N2003
than in GPL?  I *have* driven rock-crushers like Mark Donohue's Trans-Am
Camaro, and I would think that the huge rotational inertia of a 6-liter
Roush V-8, big fat clutch, and beefy 4-speed would make for *much* slower
shifting than a '67 F1 car with its short-throw crank, spindly con-rods,
flyweight pistons, skeleton flywheel, tiny clutch, and itty-bitty Hewland
gears, but nooooooooooooo...................


Steve Smit

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Steve Smit » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 05:43:38

Rat-a-tat-tat.  Check yer Six!  Comin' atcha outta the sun....


> Congrats on that nice new rig, and thanks for sharing the info! Now will
we
> see you shooting us out of the skies in IL2 anytime soon? ;-)

> Achim



> ...
> > I just got one of those little Falcon NW "Fragbox" LAN-party 'putas:
$995
> > for a foot-square cube containing a 2.66-GHz P4 w 533 FSB, an eVGA
GeForce
> > FX5600 Ultra, 80-Gb 7200-rpm, 8-Mb cache HD, 512 RAM, XP Home, built-in
> 5.1
> > sound w. digital I/O, 10/100 Ethernet, Firewire, USB 2.0, etc.  It runs

> > everywhere).
> ...

Haqsa

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Haqsa » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:39:15

That's cause NASCAR drivers (other than Kurt Busch) are beefier than those
puny F1 guys.  I mean come on, who would win in a fight, Jimmy Spencer or
Jackie Stewart?

;o)


Steve Smit

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Steve Smit » Wed, 27 Aug 2003 08:48:15

I heard Jeff Gordon is swishy.


> That's cause NASCAR drivers (other than Kurt Busch) are beefier than those
> puny F1 guys.  I mean come on, who would win in a fight, Jimmy Spencer or
> Jackie Stewart?

> ;o)



> > Point of order: I've never driven a '67 F1 car nor a latterday NASCAR,
but
> > am I the only one that's noticed you can shift 2-3 times faster in N2003
> > than in GPL?  I *have* driven rock-crushers like Mark Donohue's Trans-Am
> > Camaro, and I would think that the huge rotational inertia of a 6-liter
> > Roush V-8, big fat clutch, and beefy 4-speed would make for *much*
slower
> > shifting than a '67 F1 car with its short-throw crank, spindly con-rods,
> > flyweight pistons, skeleton flywheel, tiny clutch, and itty-bitty
Hewland
> > gears, but nooooooooooooo...................

John Wallac

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by John Wallac » Fri, 05 Sep 2003 01:30:13

On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:08:00 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>I feel guilty reporting good news here - everybody on r.a.s. seems bitterly
>embroiled on one side or the other of the RASCAR Wars, but....

>I just got one of those little Falcon NW "Fragbox" LAN-party 'putas: $995
>for a foot-square cube containing a 2.66-GHz P4 w 533 FSB, an eVGA GeForce
>FX5600 Ultra, 80-Gb 7200-rpm, 8-Mb cache HD, 512 RAM, XP Home, built-in 5.1
>sound w. digital I/O, 10/100 Ethernet, Firewire, USB 2.0, etc.  It runs

>everywhere).

I also got one of those, xcept Shuttle board. NForce2, 1Gb 400Mhz
memory, XP3200+ (well oc'ed to 3200+!), 9800 Pro, 200Gb HDD.

It's really nice. My previous PC is the "bloke's toolbox" approach -
the biggest box you can imagine, with loads of space, bits***
out, modified case, enough fans to levitate if they were pointing the
same way. The new one is much better. Now, if I can install one in the
boot of the car with small TFT screen and loads of MP3s....

John

Steve Smit

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Steve Smit » Fri, 05 Sep 2003 12:13:15

Hi John,

I'm going to reassign the Fragbox, actually.  My ancient and honorable 50"
Panasonic projection TV is approaching the end of its useful service life.
Like an ageing Trabant, bits & pieces are beginning to crumble, and it ain't
worth the cost of repairs to keep it going.  So...I've decided to replace it
with a 50" Samsung projection TV, the main difference--other than a
scarifying price-tag--being that it uses DLP (digital light processing)
technology, so has only one gun instead of 3; its electron stream is aimed
by turning on & off some 917,000 eensy-weensy mirors...for a rez. of 1024 x
768 (if I've done my math right).

Indeed, the Sammy has a VGA (or XVGA) input, plus HDTV capabilities, 16:9
screen, optical audio I/O, iLink (aka FireWire) output, Faroudja
de-interlacer (nee line doubler), etc., etc., so I thought Why the Shtup
Not?  I'll replace the AV receiver I've been using for the Pana with the
Fragbox, using the midget 'puta as a TVR (TV recorder), like a TiVo...only
w/o the monthly cost, and as a killer game platform to put stuff like "Call
of Duty" up on the big screen.

Problem is: controllers.  A steering wheel is out of the question.  The
Little Woman (take my wife...no, please!) wouldn't stand for a wheel &
pedals in the center of the living room (which means no GPL, N2003, or F1C),
and although I might try a joystick (for IL-2 and LOMAC), I really need a
means of controlling a FPS like CoD or MoH.  There are wireless keyboards,
of course, and wireless mice, but there's no way, ergonomically, to operate
the latter from the couch.

Solution 1: a wireless keyboard w. a built-in trackball.  Nice in theory,
but every review said the trackball response was painfully slow, so that's a
non-starter.  Solution 2: I've ordered a corded keyboard w. a built-in
touchpad, but I have a feeling its rez is going to be insufficient to put
any wad-cutters on target (much less FMJ rounds), so I'm not hopeful.
Solution 3: I saw an $80 "air mouse" (for want of a better term) at CompUSA
today.  Forgot to note the mfr., but the idea sounds promising: you wave the
thing around in mid-air like a Theramin wand to move the cursor.  OTOH, this
same approach was tried w. the hopelessly flawed Essential Reality P5, a
"***glove" that allowed you to wave your hand and wiggle your fingers,
like the fictitious "gesture" controller employed by Tom Cruise in the movie
"Minority Report."  Anybody have any experience w. devices like this?

Convergence, here I come...ready or not.

--Steve


> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:08:00 GMT, "Steve Smith"

> >I feel guilty reporting good news here - everybody on r.a.s. seems
bitterly
> >embroiled on one side or the other of the RASCAR Wars, but....

> >I just got one of those little Falcon NW "Fragbox" LAN-party 'putas: $995
> >for a foot-square cube containing a 2.66-GHz P4 w 533 FSB, an eVGA
GeForce
> >FX5600 Ultra, 80-Gb 7200-rpm, 8-Mb cache HD, 512 RAM, XP Home, built-in
5.1
> >sound w. digital I/O, 10/100 Ethernet, Firewire, USB 2.0, etc.  It runs

> >everywhere).

> I also got one of those, xcept Shuttle board. NForce2, 1Gb 400Mhz
> memory, XP3200+ (well oc'ed to 3200+!), 9800 Pro, 200Gb HDD.

> It's really nice. My previous PC is the "bloke's toolbox" approach -
> the biggest box you can imagine, with loads of space, bits***
> out, modified case, enough fans to levitate if they were pointing the
> same way. The new one is much better. Now, if I can install one in the
> boot of the car with small TFT screen and loads of MP3s....

> John

Stephen F

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Stephen F » Sat, 06 Sep 2003 15:39:04


But everyone forgets the high price of the bulb in current LCD projectors
(about half the total cost) and relatively short life (something like 1000
hours).  You should consider this in your decision to purchase.

Stephen

John Wallac

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by John Wallac » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 01:34:36

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 02:38:04 GMT, "Steve Smith"


>The Samsung DLP is quite unlike ye olde rear-screen projectors.  It's not as
>good as a 50" tube would be...but there ain't no such thing.

Reading your reply makesme remember the point I wanted to make :-)

During a meeting with some T.I. guys a few months back it was
suggested not to look at DLP as a "new improved" DLP was on the way.
The main saving seemed to be space, so reading your later comment
about the Samsung's footprint maybe it already uses that.

Given that my wife is Japanese, Korean products are pretty much a
no-no for me (!!) but Samsung products do tend to be good.

My Shuttle is actually an ICE box, which I mainly wanted for the peace
and quiet. My previous one sounded like an Apache in full-on attack
mode, with seven fans blasting away, so the ICE is sheer bliss.

They do indeed, I just bought a set recently. I've always liked the
ergonomics of Microsoft mice, and with the wireless and optical it's
really excellent. Certainly sounds ideal for what you intend, and will
happily work on couch, trouser leg, carpet - indeed I'm testing all of
these while typing this :-)

John

John Wallac

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by John Wallac » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 01:39:40

On Fri, 5 Sep 2003 08:39:04 +0200, "Stephen F."


>But everyone forgets the high price of the bulb in current LCD projectors
>(about half the total cost) and relatively short life (something like 1000
>hours).  You should consider this in your decision to purchase.

It is an issue, and probably depends whether you want that size of
screen for movie use alone or for general viewing.

If for general viewing and watching a lot of TV (6hrs/day?) then 2,000
/ 6 - 333days, which with a bulb coming in at $360 or so is $1/day for
the viewing (lamp life is 2,000 hours).

For me I just want to watch movies, the odd big football match
(Champion's League, World Cup) and F1, so the lamp would last ages.

Of course the best solution is when it's not yours :-)

John

Steve Smit

Sweet LAN-party rig!

by Steve Smit » Mon, 08 Sep 2003 05:43:51

Hi John,

Oopsies!  I forgot that yer wife is Japanese.  Apologies.

--Steve


> On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 02:38:04 GMT, "Steve Smith"

> >The Samsung DLP is quite unlike ye olde rear-screen projectors.  It's not
as
> >good as a 50" tube would be...but there ain't no such thing.

> Reading your reply makesme remember the point I wanted to make :-)

> During a meeting with some T.I. guys a few months back it was
> suggested not to look at DLP as a "new improved" DLP was on the way.
> The main saving seemed to be space, so reading your later comment
> about the Samsung's footprint maybe it already uses that.

> Given that my wife is Japanese, Korean products are pretty much a
> no-no for me (!!) but Samsung products do tend to be good.

> >The FragBox is a stone bargain at $995...Falcon NW is selling hundreds of
> >'em...but the form factor is nothing you couldn't duplicate w. a Shuttle
box
> >(altho the FragBox uses an ICE box) for a few hundred less.

> My Shuttle is actually an ICE box, which I mainly wanted for the peace
> and quiet. My previous one sounded like an Apache in full-on attack
> mode, with seven fans blasting away, so the ICE is sheer bliss.

> >Does Microsoft still make the wireless keyboard/mouse?

> They do indeed, I just bought a set recently. I've always liked the
> ergonomics of Microsoft mice, and with the wireless and optical it's
> really excellent. Certainly sounds ideal for what you intend, and will
> happily work on couch, trouser leg, carpet - indeed I'm testing all of
> these while typing this :-)

> John


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