rec.autos.simulators

- Eric

-Larry

Like everyone else, I appreciate the hard work the Papy team does on N4.  I
especially appreciate Eric taking the time to post these messages here.

However, that does not dilute my disdaine for copy protection, and the
difficulties it causes for honest owners of the program.

Again, Eric, thanks for posting these updates for us!

-Larry

Ironic, isn't it.

The games are cracked before you can usually buy the product but
the protection schemes being used affect legitemate buyers.

Cheers,
Rod.

| Sony and HighPoint have identified an incompatibility with the updated
| SecuROM copy protection used by the NASCAR? Racing 4 1.3 patch and
| certain HTP370 RAID Controller driver combinations.  Until they have a
| fix available, you might want to try the older HTP370 version 1.0.3
| drivers as these have proven successful for some users.  HighPoint
| recommends that you not connect any CDROM drives to the RAID controller,
| and instead use the motherboard's standard ATA controller.  Additionally
| if you're currently not using the RAID functionality for your hard
| drives, you might to temporarily switch them over to the standard ATA
| controller as well.
|
| - Eric
|
|
|

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- Eric

This starts up right as my computer boots & displays all this
info below:
HighPoint Technologies, Inc (c) 1999-2000
HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID version v1.0.0.62006.20.2000
 So my HighPoint is in my bios for ATA100RAID!

But under my Windows System Properties
It tells me this:
General
HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller
Device type: SCSI Controllers
Manufacturer: HighPoint
Hardware version: 003
{side note by me: I have nothing runing via SCSI and this
is under my Extrenal Sony Tape Backup 10gig that runs
thru my parallel port, so to me, this makes no sense?}

HPT370 UDMA/ATA100 RAID Controller
Drver files:
C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\IOSUSBSYS\Hpt3xx.mpd
C:\WIN98\VCMIOS.vsd

Provider: HighPoint Technologies, Inc
File version v1.0.0.62006.20.2000
Copyright: Copyright (c) 1999-2000 HighPoint
Date: 7-14-2000

So if this is what is stopping me from running Nascar 4
with the newer 1.3 patch, What do I do.. Anyone??
Tia Thom_j.
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| You should be able to get the 1.0.3 driver from either from your
| motherboard manufacturer's web page, or from HighPoint themselves:
| www.highpoint-tech.com
|
| - Eric
|
|


| > Where do I find the driver Eric and how do I know what yo change
| > it too? Also where is this "older HTP370 version 1.0.3" driver so I
| > can downlaod it? Tia.. Thom_j.
|
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- Eric

| You could try installing the 1.0.3 driver update for the HTP370 RAID
| controller as downloaded from HighPoint.  If you're not comfortable
| doing this, I'd suggest you wait for an official solution.
|
| - Eric
|
|


| > Eric first thank you for your reply!!
| > Now I was just getting ready to post this and I hope you will have
| > the time to read & figure my mess out! Also you will notice below
| > this is in my bios & I never***with my bios but it also is in my
| > Windows Hardware profile under my Sony Tape Backup Device!
| > Can I just disable "exists in all hardware" Or Do I have to change
| > my bios drivers from 1.0.6xxx to 1.0.3xxx?? I'm really not happy
| > with doing this for one Patch that is messed up!!
| > So any help or suggestions will be appreciated!...Tia.. Thom_j.
|
|

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Sometimes just to fix a problem with a certain piece of hardware.. sometimes
to allow compatability with new CPUs and other things like to support newer
and bigger hard drives

Personally, I think every computer owner should know how to do a BIOS update

- Eric

| Hate to say it, but BIOS updates are needed for alot more things than this
|
| Sometimes just to fix a problem with a certain piece of hardware..
sometimes
| to allow compatability with new CPUs and other things like to support
newer
| and bigger hard drives
|
| Personally, I think every computer owner should know how to do a BIOS
update
|
|


| > Thank you again Eric!!! I even went on my Abit mother board
| > page [here: http://www.racesimcentral.net/] to see how to update it
| > {I'm behind not ahead arent I? yikes!} & under "How To" for
| > {here: http://www.racesimcentral.net/}
| > my 'Abit SA6R' I have to make a bootable floppy and the put
| > the exe in there with this command in DOS:
| > A:\>awdflash se6_sw.bin /cc/ cd/ /cp /py /sn /cks /r_
| > This looks scary! Besides all the steps in the 2nd URL that's
| > above!! Then what happens if I do something 'wrong' and it
| > Crashes? I would be one PO'ed Puppy.. ya know? :)
| > Now Eric, if you'd like to take a drive to New Jersey & help
| > I'd really appreciate THIS! Wow!..lol Sorry I couldnt resist!
| > With all the above I think I beeter wait...eh?
| > Thanx Eric & Cordially Thom_j.

| >


| > | You could try installing the 1.0.3 driver update for the HTP370 RAID
| > | controller as downloaded from HighPoint.  If you're not comfortable
| > | doing this, I'd suggest you wait for an official solution.
| > |
| > | - Eric
| > |
| > |


| > | > Eric first thank you for your reply!!
| > | > Now I was just getting ready to post this and I hope you will have
| > | > the time to read & figure my mess out! Also you will notice below
| > | > this is in my bios & I never***with my bios but it also is in my
| > | > Windows Hardware profile under my Sony Tape Backup Device!
| > | > Can I just disable "exists in all hardware" Or Do I have to change
| > | > my bios drivers from 1.0.6xxx to 1.0.3xxx?? I'm really not happy
| > | > with doing this for one Patch that is messed up!!
| > | > So any help or suggestions will be appreciated!...Tia.. Thom_j.
| > |
| > |
| >
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| We're talking about two different things, there are BIOS updates and
| there are driver updates.  Your motherboard has a BIOS, but the HTP370
| RAID chipset also has a separate windows driver.  You can get the 1.0.3
| driver from HighPoint.  Go to www.highpoint-tech.com, click the support
| link, click Updated Drivers, click the Windows logo, click HTP370
| chipset device updates, and then find the 1.0.3 driver update for your
| OS.
|
| - Eric
|
|


| > Thank you again Eric!!! I even went on my Abit mother board
| > page [here: http://www.abit-usa.com/ ] to see how to update it
| > {I'm behind not ahead arent I? yikes!} & under "How To" for
| > {here: http://www.abit-usa.com/eng/download/bios/help.htm }
| > my 'Abit SA6R' I have to make a bootable floppy and the put
| > the exe in there with this command in DOS:
| > A:\>awdflash se6_sw.bin /cc/ cd/ /cp /py /sn /cks /r_
| > This looks scary! Besides all the steps in the 2nd URL that's
| > above!! Then what happens if I do something 'wrong' and it
| > Crashes? I would be one PO'ed Puppy.. ya know? :)
| > Now Eric, if you'd like to take a drive to New Jersey & help
| > I'd really appreciate THIS! Wow!..lol Sorry I couldnt resist!
| > With all the above I think I beeter wait...eh?
|
|

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Biz

"Don't touch that please, your primitive intellect wouldn't understand
alloys and compositions and,......things with molecular structures,....and
the....." - Ash

I haven't had to do a BIOS flash since I went to a larger HD than the old
BIOS supported, way back around DOS 6.22 (& WFW 3.11).

Anyone who uses an Abit (I have a KT7A RAID with the Highpoint controller in
question) should know about downloading and installing new mobo drivers as
they release their "4in1" drivers every other month or so to fix things
within the hardware and Windoze. Typically these fix their USB and AGP
implementation.

Best o' luck,