Not before green tho' ;-)
Jan.
=---
I don't understand it. If he'd stayed on the track, Dave would have been
well within his rights to pass him on the right (outside) without getting
flagged. Why the difference in the rule because he was in the pits? Is
that a NASCAR rule?
cheers
John
After the green comes back out but prior to cars passing S/F line you can
pass high without BF.
> > Needless to say.... it was a very crappy time to make a pitstop if
> > you ask me... not only did he ruin his own chances off a good
> > result.... but he would have ruined the chances of everyone who was
> > behind him too.. What he should have done was take the green flag and
> > then pit.
> > IMO.
> > --
> > ed_
> I don't understand it. If he'd stayed on the track, Dave would have been
> well within his rights to pass him on the right (outside) without getting
> flagged. Why the difference in the rule because he was in the pits? Is
> that a NASCAR rule?
> cheers
> John
David G Fisher
I had a brief one yesterday during the race, but it didn't disconnect me.
It's really a shame because when it works, the new network latencies are
excellent. Down to 60-70ms online with Sierra.
-Larry
-Larry
Unfortunately, a warp between Dave and I (not sure which it was, but it
doesn't really matter) took dave up to the wall :(
Sorry that happend, Dave.
-Larry
> I had a black flag and lost a lap for passing grubbat on a restart (he was
> entering pits slowly as everyone else was speeding off into the
distance--no
> big deal now I know what happened) so I had to work my a** off to get the
> lap back. On lap 62, if you look at Eldred's replay, I'm repeatedly
passing
> Uwe under yellow before we go green trying to get him to close up, just
like
> Ed was advised to do earlier in the race. In turn three, he's still way
> behing Mitch. I'm sure I was pissing him off but that wasn't my intention
> and if chat was on he would of known that. On the restart, it seemed (I
> don't know for sure) like he blocked me the whole length of the front
> straight in return. I then was about two seconds back of the front four
and
> that basically ruined my comeback. Larry and I warping together during a
> beautiful pass ended it for good.
> If Uwe thought I was being an a** during the yellow, then I can understand
> him blocking me, but that wasn't what I was doing. I had no way of telling
> him to close up since his chat was off, and without a tight restart Larry
> and I were going to be out of the running because we had Uwe and a couple
of
> other damaged lapped cars between us and the four leaders. I certainly
have
> no problem with you at all Uwe (just the opposite, you seem very nice on
> RASCAR), if you are mad at me then it's simply a misunderstanding due to
the
> chat being off. :-)
> David G Fisher
> > That one's for Uwe..... I tried to get him to close up the pace line
on
> > several occations... After having used autochat a billion times... I
> passed
> > him in an effort to get him to close up on the car infront....... Heck I
> > even tried to bumped him!
> > When pitting is part of the game it's essential that everyone keep a
> > "thight" pace-
> > field... meaning a distance of around a second or so between you and
the
> > car infront.
> > So for future races - please have incar chat turned on so everyone can
see
> > "vital" information...
> > --
> > ed_
> > "Jan Verschueren" said:
> > > "EldredP" wrote...
> > > > For future information. All drivers MUST have their
> > > > chat turned ON. 'nuff said...
> > > Eh?
> > > Jan.
> > > =---
> > > "It's for the fun." - Gilles Panizzi
> On lap 29, we are about to go green and he dives down to approach the
pits.
> How long do I have to stay behind him? All the way until he crosses the
pit
> entry line? What if his car broke down or he had a flat and stopped? The
> entire field took off as the green flag dropped and I'm still waiting for
> him to enter the pits. By the time he does the field was EIGHT seconds
> ahead. You can't make that up without drafting help. I apparently didn't
> wait long enough and got the flag because I couldn't see him anymore. If
> he's entering the pits, shouldn't I be able to pass him just like you can
> pass any driver on the outside before the s/f once the green drops on a
> restart?
> David G Fisher
> > That's two for Uwe actually. :-)
> > I had a black flag and lost a lap for passing grubbat on a restart (he
was
> > entering pits slowly as everyone else was speeding off into the
> distance--no
> > big deal now I know what happened) so I had to work my a** off to get
the
> > lap back. On lap 62, if you look at Eldred's replay, I'm repeatedly
> passing
> > Uwe under yellow before we go green trying to get him to close up, just
> like
> > Ed was advised to do earlier in the race. In turn three, he's still way
> > behing Mitch. I'm sure I was pissing him off but that wasn't my
intention
> > and if chat was on he would of known that. On the restart, it seemed (I
> > don't know for sure) like he blocked me the whole length of the front
> > straight in return. I then was about two seconds back of the front four
> and
> > that basically ruined my comeback. Larry and I warping together during a
> > beautiful pass ended it for good.
> > If Uwe thought I was being an a** during the yellow, then I can
understand
> > him blocking me, but that wasn't what I was doing. I had no way of
telling
> > him to close up since his chat was off, and without a tight restart
Larry
> > and I were going to be out of the running because we had Uwe and a
couple
> of
> > other damaged lapped cars between us and the four leaders. I certainly
> have
> > no problem with you at all Uwe (just the opposite, you seem very nice on
> > RASCAR), if you are mad at me then it's simply a misunderstanding due to
> the
> > chat being off. :-)
> > David G Fisher
> > > That one's for Uwe..... I tried to get him to close up the pace line
> on
> > > several occations... After having used autochat a billion times... I
> > passed
> > > him in an effort to get him to close up on the car infront....... Heck
I
> > > even tried to bumped him!
> > > When pitting is part of the game it's essential that everyone keep a
> > > "thight" pace-
> > > field... meaning a distance of around a second or so between you and
> the
> > > car infront.
> > > So for future races - please have incar chat turned on so everyone can
> see
> > > "vital" information...
> > > --
> > > ed_
> > > "Jan Verschueren" said:
> > > > "EldredP" wrote...
> > > > > For future information. All drivers MUST have their
> > > > > chat turned ON. 'nuff said...
> > > > Eh?
> > > > Jan.
> > > > =---
> > > > "It's for the fun." - Gilles Panizzi
David G Fisher
> > BTW, I didn't meant to make it sound like I blame grubbat for my black
> flag.
> > On lap 29, we are about to go green and he dives down to approach the
> pits.
> > How long do I have to stay behind him? All the way until he crosses the
> pit
> > entry line? What if his car broke down or he had a flat and stopped? The
> > entire field took off as the green flag dropped and I'm still waiting
for
> > him to enter the pits. By the time he does the field was EIGHT seconds
> > ahead. You can't make that up without drafting help. I apparently didn't
> > wait long enough and got the flag because I couldn't see him anymore. If
> > he's entering the pits, shouldn't I be able to pass him just like you
can
> > pass any driver on the outside before the s/f once the green drops on a
> > restart?
> > David G Fisher
> > > That's two for Uwe actually. :-)
> > > I had a black flag and lost a lap for passing grubbat on a restart (he
> was
> > > entering pits slowly as everyone else was speeding off into the
> > distance--no
> > > big deal now I know what happened) so I had to work my a** off to get
> the
> > > lap back. On lap 62, if you look at Eldred's replay, I'm repeatedly
> > passing
> > > Uwe under yellow before we go green trying to get him to close up,
just
> > like
> > > Ed was advised to do earlier in the race. In turn three, he's still
way
> > > behing Mitch. I'm sure I was pissing him off but that wasn't my
> intention
> > > and if chat was on he would of known that. On the restart, it seemed
(I
> > > don't know for sure) like he blocked me the whole length of the front
> > > straight in return. I then was about two seconds back of the front
four
> > and
> > > that basically ruined my comeback. Larry and I warping together during
a
> > > beautiful pass ended it for good.
> > > If Uwe thought I was being an a** during the yellow, then I can
> understand
> > > him blocking me, but that wasn't what I was doing. I had no way of
> telling
> > > him to close up since his chat was off, and without a tight restart
> Larry
> > > and I were going to be out of the running because we had Uwe and a
> couple
> > of
> > > other damaged lapped cars between us and the four leaders. I certainly
> > have
> > > no problem with you at all Uwe (just the opposite, you seem very nice
on
> > > RASCAR), if you are mad at me then it's simply a misunderstanding due
to
> > the
> > > chat being off. :-)
> > > David G Fisher
> > > > That one's for Uwe..... I tried to get him to close up the pace
line
> > on
> > > > several occations... After having used autochat a billion times...
I
> > > passed
> > > > him in an effort to get him to close up on the car infront.......
Heck
> I
> > > > even tried to bumped him!
> > > > When pitting is part of the game it's essential that everyone keep a
> > > > "thight" pace-
> > > > field... meaning a distance of around a second or so between you
and
> > the
> > > > car infront.
> > > > So for future races - please have incar chat turned on so everyone
can
> > see
> > > > "vital" information...
> > > > --
> > > > ed_
> > > > "Jan Verschueren" said:
> > > > > "EldredP" wrote...
> > > > > > For future information. All drivers MUST have their
> > > > > > chat turned ON. 'nuff said...
> > > > > Eh?
> > > > > Jan.
> > > > > =---
> > > > > "It's for the fun." - Gilles Panizzi
David G Fisher
> > BTW, I didn't meant to make it sound like I blame grubbat for my black
> flag.
> > On lap 29, we are about to go green and he dives down to approach the
> pits.
> > How long do I have to stay behind him? All the way until he crosses the
> pit
> > entry line? What if his car broke down or he had a flat and stopped? The
> > entire field took off as the green flag dropped and I'm still waiting
for
> > him to enter the pits. By the time he does the field was EIGHT seconds
> > ahead. You can't make that up without drafting help. I apparently didn't
> > wait long enough and got the flag because I couldn't see him anymore. If
> > he's entering the pits, shouldn't I be able to pass him just like you
can
> > pass any driver on the outside before the s/f once the green drops on a
> > restart?
> > David G Fisher
> > > That's two for Uwe actually. :-)
> > > I had a black flag and lost a lap for passing grubbat on a restart (he
> was
> > > entering pits slowly as everyone else was speeding off into the
> > distance--no
> > > big deal now I know what happened) so I had to work my a** off to get
> the
> > > lap back. On lap 62, if you look at Eldred's replay, I'm repeatedly
> > passing
> > > Uwe under yellow before we go green trying to get him to close up,
just
> > like
> > > Ed was advised to do earlier in the race. In turn three, he's still
way
> > > behing Mitch. I'm sure I was pissing him off but that wasn't my
> intention
> > > and if chat was on he would of known that. On the restart, it seemed
(I
> > > don't know for sure) like he blocked me the whole length of the front
> > > straight in return. I then was about two seconds back of the front
four
> > and
> > > that basically ruined my comeback. Larry and I warping together during
a
> > > beautiful pass ended it for good.
> > > If Uwe thought I was being an a** during the yellow, then I can
> understand
> > > him blocking me, but that wasn't what I was doing. I had no way of
> telling
> > > him to close up since his chat was off, and without a tight restart
> Larry
> > > and I were going to be out of the running because we had Uwe and a
> couple
> > of
> > > other damaged lapped cars between us and the four leaders. I certainly
> > have
> > > no problem with you at all Uwe (just the opposite, you seem very nice
on
> > > RASCAR), if you are mad at me then it's simply a misunderstanding due
to
> > the
> > > chat being off. :-)
> > > David G Fisher
> > > > That one's for Uwe..... I tried to get him to close up the pace
line
> > on
> > > > several occations... After having used autochat a billion times...
I
> > > passed
> > > > him in an effort to get him to close up on the car infront.......
Heck
> I
> > > > even tried to bumped him!
> > > > When pitting is part of the game it's essential that everyone keep a
> > > > "thight" pace-
> > > > field... meaning a distance of around a second or so between you
and
> > the
> > > > car infront.
> > > > So for future races - please have incar chat turned on so everyone
can
> > see
> > > > "vital" information...
> > > > --
> > > > ed_
> > > > "Jan Verschueren" said:
> > > > > "EldredP" wrote...
> > > > > > For future information. All drivers MUST have their
> > > > > > chat turned ON. 'nuff said...
> > > > > Eh?
> > > > > Jan.
> > > > > =---
> > > > > "It's for the fun." - Gilles Panizzi