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T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

Yann

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by Yann » Tue, 02 Jul 1996 04:00:00

How do you have a stop on there?  Doesn't it stop you from getting full gas or
break?  Did they design the pedals so they go further than they have to?

Chris

Mark Kratz

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by Mark Kratz » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


>Actually it is now common in F1 to brake with the left foot on a
>two pedal setup. The best way to achieve this on a T1 is to
>take the brake roller off and reverse it - ie roller on left and
>nut on the right. You can then have your feet a comfortable
>distance apart, and after a short time it will improve your
>driving. You can feather the throttle better whilst dabbing
>the brakes.

Unforetunately, that will not work for a T2.


Mike Youn

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by Mike Youn » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00


> Given that in both F1 and Indycar manual clutches are only employed in
> the pits and on the starting grid, be they hand clutches or foot
> clutches, it's actually entirely realistic to assume that everyone is
> left foot braking. In fact, Paul Tracy admitted as much in a recent
> CBC interview.

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Alain Prost, champeen F1 driver, writes in his book that left foot
braking is common with Scandanavian rally drivers. Typical rally cars
there are front wheel drive, running on unpaved or rough roads. He
neither recommends or discourages this as a practice, but points out its
utility for preventing the fronts from locking under heavy braking by
over-driving the brakes on the drive wheels. He makes no mention of
whether F1 or IndyCar drivers do this as a common practice. In a
humorous side note, Alain instructs old-timers how to deal with their
impetuous younger competition when they get bothersome by going too
fast. Mentioning that they should learn to brake with the left foot
should remove the rookies from serious competition for at least a year,
the time it would take to learn to do so effectively.

Also, in last weekend's coverage of the Winston Cup race at Watkins
Glen, Labonte's pedal cam shows him braking with his right foot. They
apparently have cameras wired everywhere in competition cars these days.
I still haven't figured out how they got enough light under the "dash"
for that particularly revealing piece of footage. (Or why they bothered,
for that matter. :)

Mike.

Ron R.

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by Ron R. » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00



>> Given that in both F1 and Indycar manual clutches are only employed in
>> the pits and on the starting grid, be they hand clutches or foot
>> clutches, it's actually entirely realistic to assume that everyone is
>> left foot braking. In fact, Paul Tracy admitted as much in a recent
>> CBC interview.
>=======
>Alain Prost, champeen F1 driver, writes in his book that left foot
>braking is common with Scandanavian rally drivers. Typical rally cars
>there are front wheel drive, running on unpaved or rough roads. He
>neither recommends or discourages this as a practice, but points out its
>utility for preventing the fronts from locking under heavy braking by
>over-driving the brakes on the drive wheels. He makes no mention of
>whether F1 or IndyCar drivers do this as a common practice. In a
>humorous side note, Alain instructs old-timers how to deal with their
>impetuous younger competition when they get bothersome by going too
>fast. Mentioning that they should learn to brake with the left foot
>should remove the rookies from serious competition for at least a year,
>the time it would take to learn to do so effectively.
>Also, in last weekend's coverage of the Winston Cup race at Watkins
>Glen, Labonte's pedal cam shows him braking with his right foot. They
>apparently have cameras wired everywhere in competition cars these days.
>I still haven't figured out how they got enough light under the "dash"
>for that particularly revealing piece of footage. (Or why they bothered,
>for that matter. :)
>Mike.

Well,
        I don't know how they did it or why, but there sure are a lot of
people talking about it. <G>

Ron

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Derek Jam

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by Derek Jam » Wed, 03 Jul 1996 04:00:00



Who needs it anyway? The T2 pedals are just fine for two foot operation as
they are. Better then one footed even as you always have a foot anchoring
the damn things to the floor.

--
Derek James

Mark Kratz

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by Mark Kratz » Thu, 04 Jul 1996 04:00:00




>>Unforetunately, that will not work for a T2.

>Who needs it anyway? The T2 pedals are just fine for two foot operation as
>they are. Better then one footed even as you always have a foot anchoring
>the damn things to the floor.

I find the pedal too close together to drive with two feet.


John Mela

T2 Wear & Tear question for those who own one.

by John Mela » Tue, 09 Jul 1996 04:00:00



>> Wondering which parts those of you who own a T2 wheel/pedal set are
>> experiencing the most wear/breakage with.
>> Being a machinist I figure to machine up a set of bushings/pedals/ a
>> base/ etc, to replace high wear rate components.
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Ron
>========
>I broke the gas pedal spring twice on my T1. I've since given up on the
>Thrustmaster pedals, and replaced them with CH rudder pedals. The CH
>setup requires you use two feet, right for gas, left from brake, whereas
>I could actually toe and heel (not that I want or need to) with the T1.
>I'd be interested in hearing about your solution. It would perhaps be as
>simple as heat treating the springs correctly, or adding a mechanical
>stop on the back of the pedal unit.

After replacing the springs in my gas pedal (T1) twice, I also added a
stop (I used a***shimmed with fender washers)  I also took the
brake roller, disassembled it and reassembled it backwards, so it was
on the other side of the pedal (allowing me to use both feet if
necessary)

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