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If you reread my post you'll see that I didn't use the word "desinging"
but "producing".

Of course, some companies modify the reference boards enough to call it
a design change (e.g. TV output).

l8er
ronny

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no shit, I agree - 3Dfx rules!!!!

Same with ID software.***activision (distributed Quake 2)... we
should have given our money to ID.

Jeff, You obviously don't know much about production design. As a circuit board
 designer (Independant consultant), I  can tell you that you can't just take a
schematic, slap down a few components and sell a couple hundred thousands
boards. If you don't understand all the aspects of the physical developement
processes, then the addage "Garbage in, Garbage out" applies.
The minutest of detail, such as a via (through hole) size, or component pad
geometry, will make or break a product! I don't know what proffession you are
in, but I'm sure that you must get misconceptions about what you do. Think
before you start typing!

If Diamond wasn't selling the Monster 3D, I'm sure this would have
been a large loss for 3Dfx.  Consider that the Monster 3D is usually
the ONLY 3Dfx card you find advertised in magazines, catalogs, and
sold in retail stores.  That's because Diamond pays big bucks to make
their products visible through these channels.

And I'd also guess that if 3Dfx felt they could make more money using
your suggestion, they'd have done it alrady.  They are a business, and
they do consider such things when designing their business model.

I agree too
3Dfx forever

Why? All he does is buy more and more expensive ferraris and trick them out
even further. What's up with all these tech geeks (Bill Gates, John Carmack)
getting totally tricked out monster funny cars? Are cars that exciting? I'll
take a tricked out computer over a tricked out car any old day. After all, I
already have a girlfriend, so that car's not going to do me any good.. <g>

Jeff

Hmm. Good, but not good enough. You may have heard of the Yamaha DB50XG
wavetable daughterboard for soundcards. This doesn't use any drivers of
it's own. It relies solely on the external MIDI port on soundcards.

Oh, and it sounds great...better than the AWE64 even.

"I once went into a general store, but they wouldn't let me buy anything
specific..."

Same thing with the Roland Sound Canvas.  Just set the game or app
using it to port 330, no drivers needed.  (You need to tell win95 that
the card is there though, by using the normal MPU401 driver so it wont
use FM synthesis for win95 based programs that dont allow independent
port configuration).

On Sat, 28 Feb 1998 23:16:13 +0000, Robert Phillips

"By US Code Title 47, Sec.227(a)(2)(B), a computer/modem/printer meets
the definition of a telephone fax machine.  By Sec.227(b)(1)(C), it is
unlawful to send any unsolicited adverti***t to such equipment.  By
Sec.227(b)(3)(C), a violation of the aforementioned Section is
punishable by action to recover actual monetary loss, or $500,
whichever is greater, for each violation."

- Antos

They don't make 3dfx boards for the same reason they don't make sound
cards, motherboards, memory, or a whole host of other things and
Diamond doesn't design core chipsets for graphics
cards.

Specialization ensures that companies concentrate on what they're good
at, rather than trying to do everything. Investing in a fab for chips
and equipment for PCB stuffing and soldering isn't core to what 3dfx
does. Diamond and Creative already have experience in and capital
equipment to manufacture boards. So they do that, 3dfx does the chip
design and everybody makes more money than if any of them did the
whole thing soup to nuts...

Creative and Diamond are doing more than you probably give them credit
for. In fact, I'd argue that they ARE designing boards, just not the
core graphics processor.

---Jim

If you have enough money for a tricked out computer and tricked out
car, why not have both? Just try to stay away from the tricked out
girlfriends... :-) Sorry, couldn't stop myself.

---Jim

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