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Castle Combe - excellent

Ed Solhei

Castle Combe - excellent

by Ed Solhei » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 00:58:05

Why didnt you make it the conventional way then?

1st. for start - only...  (as it should be!)
2nd to 5th for the rest.

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Andreas Wilk

Castle Combe - excellent

by Andreas Wilk » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 04:15:32



because im an Insect. I fell off every 2nd lap from the track, so only have
to shift
down 3 gears instead of 4.

cya Andy

Ian Greenwoo

Castle Combe - excellent

by Ian Greenwoo » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 07:55:16

a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race
EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI
cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars  - not quite as
fast as F1s-  were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970,  and
Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to
modify the AI to make them faster ?

Thanks once more for a great track

Ian



>Lovely to see Castle Combe out at last, and also great to see that the
>fairly lengthy wait was worth it. The makers say on the site that they
>wanted the track to look a bit more "real" than some others, and I
>think they've succeeded - those patches of tarmac are a right pain!

>A really challenging track considering its shortness - Quarry in
>particular is going to take a very long time to get right. The number
>of times I've ended up in that cornfield...!

>I'd advise people to work out their own setups as soon as possible -
>the default Ferrari one is very odd, with a 5th gear so high as to be
>useless (you can get decent times driving it as a 4-gear car, though).

>The visual appearance of the place is excellent - it's instantly
>recognisable, and all the paths, banks etc seem to be in the right
>place. Can't see the BRSCC stand by the pits, though - maybe that's
>only in the highest-quality version <g>

>My only slight quibble is with the appearance of the spectators - the
>circuit is in Wiltshire, for heaven's sake: where are all the kids in
>Manchester United shirts!?

David Butte

Castle Combe - excellent

by David Butte » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:57:52


You *read* readmes before jumping in the car? Wow - get on to Guinness,
someone.

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Kevin Clar

Castle Combe - excellent

by Kevin Clar » Wed, 19 Dec 2001 21:45:14


> a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race
> EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI
> cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars  - not quite as
> fast as F1s-  were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970,  and
> Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to
> modify the AI to make them faster ?

Are they trunding round at 50mph?
If you use GPLAIM or AItweaker it screws them up. Without either of
those addons they run sub 1min laps.
Jones

Castle Combe - excellent

by Jones » Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:36:07


Oh I LOVE how slow they are...in an AI race I look like the mut's nuts there
at the mo! ;-)

Andy Laurenc

Castle Combe - excellent

by Andy Laurenc » Thu, 20 Dec 2001 02:53:07

They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive.  The fastest F1
lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something ridiculous like 40 seconds
(mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 ;-)

Andy
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David Butte

Castle Combe - excellent

by David Butte » Thu, 20 Dec 2001 07:35:55


2001:

Wrong. The outright lap record (which of course, following the
chicanes' introduction now stands as an all-time record) is 50.59
seconds, set by Nigel Greensall in a Tyrrell 023 on August 25th 1997.

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"We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism
in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist.

The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Andy Laurenc

Castle Combe - excellent

by Andy Laurenc » Thu, 20 Dec 2001 18:18:09

.... in damp conditions.  He was the class of the field that day.  It was
amazing to see these cars so close, especially at tower where there is so
little runoff.  You feel like you could reach out and touch them.  They
mentioned in the commentary that they were testing before the meeting, and
in the dry had managed something along the lines of 43 seconds.  It was a
few years ago now, so I can't remember the exact number.  Obviously, this is
an unofficial record as it neither happened in a race nor qualifying.

Andy
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Ian Greenwoo

Castle Combe - excellent

by Ian Greenwoo » Fri, 21 Dec 2001 02:55:46

On Tue, 18 Dec 2001 17:53:07 -0000, "Andy Laurence"


>> > a brilliant effort i have to say from one who saw his first motor race
>> > EVER there way back in 1978. My only slight quibble is that the AI
>> > cars are way too slow - to explain - Formula 5000 cars  - not quite as
>> > fast as F1s-  were able to lap in 56-57 seconds in 1970,  and
>> > Clarke/Hill etc are well behind that. Anyone know the simplest way to
>> > modify the AI to make them faster ?

>> Are they trunding round at 50mph?
>> If you use GPLAIM or AItweaker it screws them up. Without either of
>> those addons they run sub 1min laps.

>They need to be doing sub-50 second laps to be competitive.  The fastest F1
>lap of the (original) Castle Combe was something ridiculous like 40 seconds
>(mind you, that was a somewhat newer F1 ;-)

>Andy

a couple of thiungs :

I have not used the track too much so far but find Jack Brabham is
fastest with a 1:09 something. 1967 F1s trundling round Quarry at
35/40mph (as Parkes does) - c'mon guys  !

I still maintain that somewhere around 55/56/57 secs would be a
reaonable time for a front-running car of that era in optimal
conditions round Combe.

I have a default set-up for GPL

Ian

Andy Laurenc

Castle Combe - excellent

by Andy Laurenc » Fri, 21 Dec 2001 18:11:49

I've been round there somewhat quicker than that in an XR2i!  It's not that
sharp a turn, it's just long.  The knack for Quarry is to take Folly wide so
you're on the right just before Avon Rise.  If you complete your left turn
on the way up Avon Rise, then you can brake in a straight line (and not
spin) when the car goes light at the top of Avon Rise.

Indeed it would.  The record for an F1 car of that era is about 55 seconds.

Andy
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David Butte

Castle Combe - excellent

by David Butte » Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:46:47


2001:

<snip>

And I'd chosen to go to what turned out to be a stunningly boring
sportscar race at Donington instead. <sob>

--
"We are not very far from fascism. In fact, Mugabe has endorsed fascism
in his rule" - Takura Zhangazha, Zimbabwean political scientist.

The GPL Scrapyard returns (slowly): http://www.hillclimbfan.f2s.com

Andy Laurenc

Castle Combe - excellent

by Andy Laurenc » Fri, 21 Dec 2001 20:56:55

Sorry, didn't mean to show you what you missed ;-)

Worrying how if I shut my eyes, I can still see and hear Nigel Greensall
shooting up Avon Rise in the distance at 180mph!  Funny how you always
remember the things in the distance rather than the action right in front of
you?!

Andy
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