rec.autos.simulators

Damn, it'll be cheaper for me to buy a real race car :-)

Andrew McP

PS Actually I do like the idea that RL could keep a rough record of how
bad your crashes are, giving you a guestimate of how much it might have
cost to fix. We could have a RLrank-style "rank per unit repair cost" to
see who's the cheapest driver to run :-)

Even if it is ready to drive in 2005 it won't run on any personnel pc.

Lol

I want to believe in RL, I really do, but this is pointless screwing around.
Are we all part of the world's largest practical joke?  Do the West's
release these renders, smoke pot then read r.a.s for a good laugh?

There is no way a good render of internal engine parts is an essential part
of a racing simulation.  Model the part numerically and move on.  In fact,
don't even bother... my enjoyment of RL won't be determined by accurate
replication of a connecting rod.  Program in the engine parameters and get
on with the job.

Nope... that's it.   As of today I fully beileve that RL is an elaborate
practical joke or at best research on a psychology thesis.

You know... this "update" reminds me of the kind of work I do at my job when
I'm not doing any real work on a project.

Boss: "Is that report done?"
Me: "No, but I've done the contour plots for the data."
Boss: "Oooo... nice graphs."

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com

About the fancy coloured graphs,  they're useless and we know that, but
people do buy into them. A lot of people are impressed by powerpoint
presentations, even though the same data can be shown more efficiently with
a lot less work too. Same with this whole engine thing... So,  the question
is.. who are they trying to impress?? I don't think it is us..

My guess is that website could be there PURELY for funding, or in an attempt
to get themselves nice jobs as 3D artists. Those renders are AMAZING, I'll
admit it. I'd hire them to model cars and engine parts if I ever needed
someone to do so.

Or, they are actually making a game. I guess if you did model all these cars
AND you wrote a physics engine that is still in testing phaze, how would you
graphically show on a website what you have done? Some nice render shots of
the cars, or a screenshot of some code from your physics engine?

The physics engine and grapic engine could definately be in development, but
there's no way of really showing it off yet. Whereas the car models can be
nicely rendered in software and shown and be very impressive.

Mike
http://mikebeauchamp.com

fear...

You'd have thought the artist time would have been better spent on the
mammoth task of making detailed tracks for the game, rather than intricate
modelling of pistons and con-rods.

The engine model *is* a nice piece of work though - if it is all animated it
will be a nice teaching tool to demonstrate how internal combustion engines
work.

- Michael

Remco

Or start working on other cars for that matter.

Details *are* nice, but this is miles over the top IMHO.
I'd much rather have more cars and tracks than a few super-detailed models.

A sim is to be raced - not looked at! :-)

--
ed_

And while I'm thinking about it, I was flying around in FS2004 earlier on.
I flew one of the biplanes for the first time and noticed that in the 3d
***pit view you could see bits of the engine moving at the front...
you know, tappety pistony valve wossits jiggling up and down (or something
techy and engine-esque like that).

It was actually quite fascinating to see that level of detail simulated
and it made me think a little harder about the Wests' ideas.

But I still want something to drive before they go modelling bubbles in
the petrol feed.

Andrew McP

Stephen

p.s. I also get all glassy-eyed watching the moving bits and bobs on the
planes.

Andrew McP

I think the order is different, but alas true.  Why can't they at least
admit they are doing this for potential business reasons?  There's NO reason
to waste developing time at this stage.

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

It (the development of RL) reminds me of the development by Howard Hughes of
his plywood flying boat (dubbed the "Spruce Goose").
It was a magnificent creation - totally awesome and mightily impressive -
but by the time it undertook its one and only flight the reason for its
initial creation had gone; the war was over.

So it appears to be with RL; by the time the first car turns a wheel in
anger, the rest of the simulation world may well have passed it by.

Bruce.

around.

Even Papy entered that game with the ("someday my patch will come, [] and
how thrilling that moment will be...") addition of 3 new set of physics and
the track tools.

So I ask you, West Bros., what's the point!?

--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- http://ymenard.cjb.net/
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Jason