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by **Sondo** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Thanks for the advise guys it really helped me make a decision. I bought
the V3 3000.

Sondog

by **Chris Schlette** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

Why, the TNT2 cards are faster than the V2SLI for GPL. TNT2 Ultras are
better still. And yes, I have a TNT2 Ultra AND a V2SLI combo.

by **Ed Ba** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

On Tue, 29 Jun 1999 10:00:22 -0400,

You will be a very happy camper....

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by **Driver** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

The only thing I needed to do, was set the limit to 2 meg textures.
Works great.
Works great on all the other games I've got also.

by **David Ript** » Wed, 30 Jun 1999 04:00:00

>> Very true, but that wasn't the point. I only pointed out that SLI is
>faster
>> in GPL than a single V2, the fact that you had misleading information on.
>If
>> someone has, say TNT2 card and a V2 and wants to keep them, it may be
>> feasible to add another V2 to increase GPL performance.

>Why, the TNT2 cards are faster than the V2SLI for GPL. TNT2 Ultras are
>better still. And yes, I have a TNT2 Ultra AND a V2SLI combo.

GPL is capped at 36 fps, which a single Voodoo 2 can reach, given
sufficient CPU power and not-quite-maxed detail settings.

Are you getting consistent 36 fps on your TNT2 Ultra, even in
traffic? What resolution? What mirror refresh setting? What
CPU?

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by **Don Burnett** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

My V3 3000 card runs GPL very well. I do have to limit texture memory to 2mb
to keep the colors from screwing up.

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by **Mike Mellendor** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

On my PII450 my V2 SLI was actually slightly faster then a v3 3000. I used
the George Smiley patch to get the proper textures. I returned the v3 3000
and will wait for the 3500. (I want the video in for my camcorder). I also
will enjoy freeing up 2 pci slots.

> My V3 3000 card runs GPL very well. I do have to limit texture memory to
2mb
> to keep the colors from screwing up.

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> > I've been running V2 SLI for a few months now and am considering
upgrading
> > too. Will V3 3000 straight out of the box work with GPL or would I need
> > anything special (I've done the glide 2.53 in my GPL startup dir thing).

> > Thanks,
> > Dennis

by **Chris** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Yes, and at what resolution? 640x480. :)

Yes, 1024x768 and 15 cars is all I was using before and haven't changed it.
Mirror refresh set to 1. P2400 for the cpu.

by **John Simmo** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

What amazes me is that a lot of people *seem to be* considering a frame
rate of 26-29 fps "at the start" and "when there's a big wreck" as being
completely acceptable.

IMHO, those are precisely the instances (in an online race) when you
simply cannot function sufficiently unless your system is capable of 36
fps. I'm running a P2/450 (overclocked to 504) with 256mb of ram and a
voodoo2/12 card, and I can't get 36 fps all the time (including the two
instances I cited above) unless I run my detail bias at 90% and turn off
some of the object detail.

IMHO, connection quality and frame rate are much more important than
realism and eye-candy.

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by **Thom j** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

Point, Set & Match.. Never knew RAS had Wimbledon competition
here also? Cheerio Folks.. Thom_j.

> >>>Don't waste your money on a SLI setup for GPL - it will
> >>>more likely hurt your framerates than improve them.

> >>That's bull. This is a common mistake to leave buffer swaps synced with
> >>monitor refresh. For some reason installing the 2nd V2 does this by
> >>default. I know for a fact that SLI is faster in GPL than single V2.

> >It's also commonly known that the V3/3k is faster than an SLI setup.

> Very true, but that wasn't the point. I only pointed out that SLI is
faster
> in GPL than a single V2, the fact that you had misleading information on.
If
> someone has, say TNT2 card and a V2 and wants to keep them, it may be
> feasible to add another V2 to increase GPL performance.

> Hena

by **John Simmo** » Thu, 01 Jul 1999 04:00:00

We could all sit here and argue semantics all freakin day, but the
clearly smart purchase here would be a V3/3K. There's no point scored,
or match won.

In the end, the original poster bought a V3/3K.

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by **Thom j** » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00

John this was my Point of "Point, Set & Match." No more.
No less.. Some of these threads just go on endlessly. You
know it.. I know it.. Whether it is a miss-spelled word, an
English lesson etc... I was not trying to single you out & if
it appeared to be I apologize! I feel it would be nice if we
had more "rec.autos.simulators" discussions instead of all
this "hair-splittiing".. All constructive comments welcome.
Cheers Thom_j.

by **John Simmo** » Fri, 02 Jul 1999 04:00:00

I think what we're seeing is all of the Papy faithful going a little stir
crazy waiting for a patch on one sim, and for an update on another.
Everything has been discussed to death, so our only recourse is to attack
each other's opinions about the best hardware for a given sim.

Papy could solve the whole problem by releasing the GPL patch and a N3
demo... :-)

says...

>John this was my Point of "Point, Set & Match." No more.
>No less.. Some of these threads just go on endlessly. You
>know it.. I know it.. Whether it is a miss-spelled word, an
>English lesson etc... I was not trying to single you out & if
>it appeared to be I apologize! I feel it would be nice if we
>had more "rec.autos.simulators" discussions instead of all
>this "hair-splittiing".. All constructive comments welcome.
>Cheers Thom_j.

>> We could all sit here and argue semantics all freakin day, but the
>> clearly smart purchase here would be a V3/3K. There's no point
>> scored, or match won.

>> In the end, the original poster bought a V3/3K.

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