what issues are you having with the replay system? You can cut, edit,
ff, back, set bookmarks, whatever. Doesn't seem that inferior to papy
titles anymore.
Cheers, uwe
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You can also export to avi files which is cool, but ISI replays just don't
store enough data to recreate a run. The sounds like tire squeal aren't
there at all (F1C, GTR), or are rarely audible (rFactor), and often
out of sync (like gear changes). Gauges don't work at all. With an ISI
replay, there's no sense of how hard the driver was pushing his car.
I've made a lot of videos from racing games, and with an ISI game, I'm
forced to do a live capture.
The Papy based replays produce an identical (or near identical) reproduction
of a run. Need For Speed 2 through 5 were unique in that they stored
control inputs instead of telemetry (and ai persona info), so a replay
was an exact recreation of a race. Toca Race Driver 2 uses the same
control input method, (although a bit buggy, you need a clean run to get
a good replay with TRD2). Even a budget racer, like Ford Racing 2, which
can't save it's replays, still does do a good job of recreating a run
when viewing a replay (only saved in memory just after a race).
>Hey Neil,
>what issues are you having with the replay system? You can cut, edit,
>ff, back, set bookmarks, whatever. Doesn't seem that inferior to papy
>titles anymore.
Cheers!
Remco
> Hmmm, watch a rFactor replay, then watch a GTP replay....the graphics
> regarding tracks are outstanding in rFactor, but the car looks more
> realistic in GTP.
cheers, uwe
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> Hey Neil,
> what issues are you having with the replay system? You can cut, edit,
> ff, back, set bookmarks, whatever. Doesn't seem that inferior to papy
> titles anymore.
> Cheers, uwe
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Regards
cheers
steve
>>> can't comment. The replay system is still hopeless. I still can't
>>> believe
>> Hey Neil,
>> what issues are you having with the replay system? You can cut, edit,
>> ff, back, set bookmarks, whatever. Doesn't seem that inferior to papy
>> titles anymore.
>> Cheers, uwe
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> I think Jeff very concisely lists my concerns in his response. No biggie
> but in terms of accurate portrayal it's still years behind Papy. Yes it
> will export to avi as long has you have several weeks and 2 Gb available
> for each lap. Like I said, It's not a show-stopper just weak.
> Regards
>> Hmmm, watch a rFactor replay, then watch a GTP replay....the graphics
>> regarding tracks are outstanding in rFactor, but the car looks more
>> realistic in GTP.
> I think one of the major gripes people were having with ISI replays in
> the past is their inadequacy for league / incident review and not
> graphical quality, and I think it's much easier to handle replays in
> rFactor then any other ISI title I've seen.
> cheers, uwe
Don
Regards
> cheers
> steve
>>>> can't comment. The replay system is still hopeless. I still can't
>>>> believe
>>> Hey Neil,
>>> what issues are you having with the replay system? You can cut, edit,
>>> ff, back, set bookmarks, whatever. Doesn't seem that inferior to papy
>>> titles anymore.
>>> Cheers, uwe
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>> I think Jeff very concisely lists my concerns in his response. No biggie
>> but in terms of accurate portrayal it's still years behind Papy. Yes it
>> will export to avi as long has you have several weeks and 2 Gb available
>> for each lap. Like I said, It's not a show-stopper just weak.
>> Regards
How do you crank them up in the demo? I'm having a blast with this demo, but
they are too slow. BTW I'm on advanced already.
>>I mean is this based off of the F1C 99-00, or GTR games. How much better is
>>it than the rest of these clones? Anything new or improved over the rest of
>>isi's sims?
>physics, graphics, net code. all new
>hows that sound? :)
Granted, you can tick some off if you're hosting, but so far I haven't
seen a way in game to set the amount of practice/qualify/warmup time,
or set the type of qualification. Somehow I've a feeling this part is
just the F1C part, since you're only allowed 12 laps....Maybe it's
different in the dedicated server, I didn't check that one out.
Cheers!
Remco
>>>I mean is this based off of the F1C 99-00, or GTR games. How much
>>>better is it than the rest of these clones? Anything new or improved
>>>over the rest of isi's sims?
>>physics, graphics, net code. all new
>>hows that sound? :)
> It sounds good....but why oh why didn't they solve the stutter when
> someone joins? I've a feeling the only netcode they rewrote was the
> matchmaking part, not the actual racingcode. The other thing which
> reminds me to the older ISI based games is the
> practice/quilify/warmup/race setup.
> Granted, you can tick some off if you're hosting, but so far I haven't
> seen a way in game to set the amount of practice/qualify/warmup time,
> or set the type of qualification. Somehow I've a feeling this part is
> just the F1C part, since you're only allowed 12 laps....Maybe it's
> different in the dedicated server, I didn't check that one out.
> Cheers!
> Remco
dh
> Hey Neil,
> what issues are you having with the replay system? You can cut, edit,
> ff, back, set bookmarks, whatever. Doesn't seem that inferior to papy
> titles anymore.
I couldn't change the view to other cars last I tried. It looks like the
only way to tell who's who is by the number on the car, colours, shapes, etc
LOL.
>> I watch replays mostly to study faster drivers laps, my own driving, and
>> league incident reviews.
>> Unless I've missed something(highly likely) there's no way to know what
>> driver your watching, what lap he's on, or what the lap time is.
> I couldn't change the view to other cars last I tried. It looks like
> the only way to tell who's who is by the number on the car, colours,
> shapes, etc LOL.
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-Larry
>>> How much better is it than the rest of these
>>> clones?
>> Much better IMO. But after spending four hours or so
>> thrashing around in the "starter" vehicles I'm not
>> convinced it's the sim to lure me back to my wheel in a
>> serious manner. Great lighting, stunning sound,
>> pretty good AI (once tweaked). But... I think I need to
>> "cheat" my way into a more satisfying car before I make up
>> my mind.
>> Andrew McP
> Cheating is easy, it's already being taught at RSC. Leagues can send
> out files that provide the drivers will all the cash you need to upgrade
> or
> you can just whip out notepad. Ridiculously easy to bypass.
> I would think that most mods will forego the upgrade and just provide
> fully tricked out cars. But, you should be aware that online server code
> checks for edits so you may want to have a safe default driver to prevent
> any mis-matching errors.
> And..
> There is already a real world track available. A port of Lime Rock
> Park by the RSR mod team.
> Again...rsc for details.
> dave henrie
