rec.autos.simulators

by **Kevin Anderso** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

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by **ymenar** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also gst a
CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do I
really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

Since your CD-RW will read normal CD-Rom at an average of 32x, you really
won't have a need for another CD-ROm drive. Keep the slot open, in case you
want a DVD-Rom in your unit later.

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by **Chris Arnd** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

8x4x32 seems fast enough to serve as a CD-ROM as well.

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I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

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by **daxe rexfor** » Sun, 16 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also gst a
>CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do I
>really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

No, you don't, but you may not want to wear out your expensive-to-replace
CD-RW by spinning CDs in it all the time. You can get a decent CD-ROM for
50-60$ if you fry one (and they do eventually go, believe me), but you can't
replace your CD-RW for 60$, even with a crappy one.

Look at the specs for the CD-RW and check a number called "MTBF." It is a
rating of "Mean Time Between Failures." This is the average number of hours
that drive can be expected to last. When you look at it from the
perspective that the manufacturer *expects* it to fail after a certain
number of hours, you might feel compelled to rack up fewer hours on it.

Just something to consider.

~daxe

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by **Colin McSkimmin** » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

If you want to MP3 any albums you may want to keep that CD drive, its only
one IDE connection after all. I've heard it can be tricky to rip digital
source from a CD in a CD-RE drive.

Is this true?

by **Jason Harriso** » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Should be ok, just bear in mind some copy protection
on retail CD's may not be readable with the CD-RW.
This means you can have the cd in the drive but the
game keeps prompting you for it :(

I've seen this with Janes sims on yamaha CD burners
and I'm not sure if it extends to other burners. You
might need no-cd patches from megagames.com to
run these games properly.

Jason

I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also
gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do
I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

by **Sun Tz** » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Hello,

CD-Rom drives are so cheap you should get one in case you want to make "on the fly" recordings. The cost is so small for added convenience.

I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

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by **Ken Jud** » Mon, 17 Jan 2000 04:00:00

On Sun, 16 Jan 2000 14:46:05 +1100, "Jason Harrison"

>I've seen this with Janes sims on yamaha CD burners
>and I'm not sure if it extends to other burners.

In fact GPL refused to install from my CD Rom drive when I also had a
Yamaha re-writer attached. I was advised by the tech support people
here in the UK to take the sim back and get a refund. I never got
round to it, and when the Yamaha packed up and I replaced it with a
Mitsumi writer GPL magically decided it would now be happy to reside
on my machine :-)

Cheers

Ken

by **Doug Gordo** » Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:00:00

The main thing you'll miss is being able to copy directly from CD-ROM
to the CD-RW. However, I've generated enough coasters to now find it
worth the extra time to copy a CD to the hard disk and then burn it to
the CD-RW.

Doug G

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by **Don Hancock (** » Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:00:00

I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also
gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do
I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

Doug, below, made the most important point: you can copy directly
between the CD and CDRW. Otherwise you have to ensure that you always have
at least 600MB FREE space on your hard drive. The "bad" point would be that
it eats an IDE slot (which means you'll only be able to have 2 IDE hard
drives).
A DVD drive could be a better idea, but I don't know about its
limitation with copy protection.
The most important point, tho', is that a few of the newer games
have a serious problem with CDRW drives, so you'll want a CD-ROM to run
them. If you DO get both drives, make sure you install everything from the
CD-ROM, because many programs expect the CD to be in the same drive it was
installed from.

Gunner

by **Chuck Kandle** » Tue, 18 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also
> gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do
> I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

> Doug, below, made the most important point: you can copy directly
> between the CD and CDRW. Otherwise you have to ensure that you always have
> at least 600MB FREE space on your hard drive. The "bad" point would be that
> it eats an IDE slot (which means you'll only be able to have 2 IDE hard
> drives).

Not true anymore!! I've just bought an Abit BE6-2, and it supports
*eight* IDE devices as opposed to the usual 4. Now I can reconnect my
3rd hard drive that has my Linux once again. YESSSSSS!!

There are some games out there that have problems with reading from the
CD-RW, so another cheepo CD drive is certainly a good idea. Besides
saving the wear and tear on a much more expensive CD-RW.

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by **Rafe McAulif** » Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:00:00

Just out of interest, how much was your BE6-2? Mine weighed in at
AU$270, approx $175 US. ***y expensive, but made up for it by
getting my Celeron 400 up to 550mhz....

8 IDE ports is also a slight bonus. Mega handy.

>> I'm planning out a new system, and I was wondering, Do I need to also
>> gst a CD-Rom or is a 8x/4x/32x CD-RW good enough to handle all CD needs? Do
>> I really need to have both a CD-Rom and a CD-RW?

>> Doug, below, made the most important point: you can copy directly
>> between the CD and CDRW. Otherwise you have to ensure that you always have
>> at least 600MB FREE space on your hard drive. The "bad" point would be that
>> it eats an IDE slot (which means you'll only be able to have 2 IDE hard
>> drives).

>Not true anymore!! I've just bought an Abit BE6-2, and it supports
>*eight* IDE devices as opposed to the usual 4. Now I can reconnect my
>3rd hard drive that has my Linux once again. YESSSSSS!!

>There are some games out there that have problems with reading from the
>CD-RW, so another cheepo CD drive is certainly a good idea. Besides
>saving the wear and tear on a much more expensive CD-RW.

by **Chuck Kandle** » Wed, 19 Jan 2000 04:00:00

> Just out of interest, how much was your BE6-2? Mine weighed in at
> AU$270, approx $175 US. ***y expensive, but made up for it by
> getting my Celeron 400 up to 550mhz....

> 8 IDE ports is also a slight bonus. Mega handy.

Yeah, thought mine was quite pricey too. But worth it. I paid $140 US
compared to the $95 that my BH6 ran last year. But with Abit's quality,
along with the flexibility I require with the 8 IDE device support, it's
worth every penny IMHO.

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:00:00

>>I've seen this with Janes sims on yamaha CD burners
>>and I'm not sure if it extends to other burners.

>In fact GPL refused to install from my CD Rom drive when I also had a
>Yamaha re-writer attached. I was advised by the tech support people
>here in the UK to take the sim back and get a refund. I never got
>round to it, and when the Yamaha packed up and I replaced it with a
>Mitsumi writer GPL magically decided it would now be happy to reside
>on my machine :-)

>Cheers

>Ken

Wait - you couldn't install from your regular CD drive just because you also
had a writer? Strange. I have a Yamaha writer to, and I didn't have any
problem re-installing GPL... It's amazing that ANYTHING works anymore, given
the different timings and tolerances...

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by **Eldre** » Fri, 21 Jan 2000 04:00:00

writes:

That's supposed to *help* with the copies? That's when I've had problems.
I've never been able to get the 'copy to hard disk' part to work. Rats,
where's that manual again...?

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