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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sat, 26 May 2001 04:59:26



>EldredP wrote...
>> <snip>
>> Why am I that slow, or why don't I like the track?  Cause
>> and effect, man...<g> I can't DRIVE the f'king piece of
>> asphalt, therefore, I don't LIKE it...  I'd rather do the
>> next online GP race at *Monaco* rather than Rouen.

>Count me in for either track... though I've yet to not stuff it at Monaco, I
>might outlast the others like at the Ring!! ;-))

Well, the only tracks we haven't run yet are Spa, Monaco, and Rouen.  We may
run them in that order...<g>

I can't get consistent at Rouen.  I may run 2:05, 2:03, *2:20*...  The hairpin
and the turn before it***me up.  I can't tell exactly where and how much to
brake for that combo.  As a result, I usually end up braking way early for the
left-hander, then coasting up to/through the hairpin.  There are a couple other
turns that I have similar problems with.

Ok, thanks.
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Thom j

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by Thom j » Sat, 26 May 2001 05:33:52

Ok Buddy Fire'up your best Chassis and I'll jam my nose up ur rear
and chase ya all around Spa until you cant stand it anymore!! You'll
see me all the time...haha Btw: nice site with your PBs. I like it a lot!
The Tee'ster..

| Spa is boring to me.  I mean, it's a nice track, but when I'm racing I
never
| see any other cars...  They've checked out.
| BTW, I have laps posted on my webpage, if anyone wants to check them
out...:
| http://www.umich.edu/~epickett/eplaps.html
|  :)
| Eldred

Jim

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by Jim » Sat, 26 May 2001 07:45:42

Sorry Eldred I'd forgotten that, I believe you mentioned it before too. Um,
did you try again with more graphics on? I can definitely see the trees with
my detail slider at minimum, and *all* the square boxes on the left hand
side ticked (clouds, driver arms etc).

I dunno how to take screenies in D3D but if you still can't see the trees
then I'll whip into software mode and fire off a few shots for ya... lemme
know

Cheers
JimSeamus



L"

> >Well said that man! These are really really good trackguides, I'd be
happy
> >to use them as living-room wallpaper if I could find a printer big
> >enough.......

> >Eldred I only found Rouen enjoyable once I'd used the LOR guide to figure
> >out the Nouveau Monde, definitely worth a look.

> I don't *ever* remember seeing the trees that are mentioned as braking
points.
> Probably because I had the graphics turned down for frame rate.  I haven't
> tried it again since I upgraded my system.

> Eldred
> --
> Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
> Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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> Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats
you
> with experience...
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Peter Ive

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by Peter Ive » Sat, 26 May 2001 09:38:54




>"Jim L"

>>Well said that man! These are really really good trackguides, I'd be happy
>>to use them as living-room wallpaper if I could find a printer big
>>enough.......

>>Eldred I only found Rouen enjoyable once I'd used the LOR guide to figure
>>out the Nouveau Monde, definitely worth a look.

>I don't *ever* remember seeing the trees that are mentioned as braking
>points.
>Probably because I had the graphics turned down for frame rate.  I haven't
>tried it again since I upgraded my system.

Go for it, man!!!
Also, shouldn't use the lack of detail as an excuse.  I've probably been
driving with just as little, if not less, detail as yourself and am now
down to 1:57.89 in under a month with a wheel.  You've just got to be a
little more creative when choosing where/when to brake.

That braking for the hairpin can be a bit dicey if you try to squeeze
every last tenth out of it, but that shouldn't be necessary in order to
go under 2 mins.  Normally as soon as I'm about to touch the darker
driving line I brake hard and change down 2 gears to 2nd.  At the same
time I try to make sure that I'm getting near the inside and not too
wide (if you let the car run wide I find that there's a strong
possibility of oversteer as I try to turn away from the outside of the
bend), then I too coast a little around the corner until I've
straightened out and then brake and change down to first.  If you brake
too early then try and estimate a little later.  You aint' gonna get it
right everytime and may find yourself overshooting on the odd occasion,
but when trying to improve your pb it's worth making a few mistakes for
the sake of a decent lap, surely. :)

Now, get out there and have fun, and stopping putting Rouen down, it's a
great track. ;-)

PS: I bet you're careful in that first corner after the start/finish
line - the 4th gear right-hander.  If you're brave you should be able to
brake hard as soon as you see the darker line and then turn in quite
sharply towards the apex, almost as if you want to run up the curb.
However, if you've carried enough speed you won't and will absolutely
fly around this bend, modulating the throttle as you go, you don't want
to get too carried away and find yourself drifting too wide on the exit
now.  It takes some nerve initially but, once you've been successful a
few times you'll get more confident, I'm sure.

PPS: this post is just another excuse to post my new GPLrank wheel time
in my sig. :)
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Ale

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by Ale » Sat, 26 May 2001 11:59:07





>>Spa??????? Really?? I love Spa... But Tim Wheatley is the one I must
>>thank for learning Spa about a year & 1/2 ago.. He really made it easy
>>for me!! I was stuck at 3:23s-24s & then he did a complete review on
>>my replay..
>>Wow what a difference after his critique!! Dropped into the 3:19range
>>is just a week. Still do 3:20s without much trouble but I've been away
>>from GPL for awhile and I am just starting to get back into the groove
>>again {If I have a grove??...lol} just my $0.02 :-)
>>Cheers Thom_j.

> Spa is boring to me.  I mean, it's a nice track, but when I'm racing I

Exactly my impressioin. On top of that the straights are sooo long
that the next corner always cathes me unprepared, because I am just
starting to believe that that straight goes around the world and that
I am actually on the oval track:)

Alex
(alexti)

Thom j

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by Thom j » Sat, 26 May 2001 12:33:29

Geez Alex you suppose to hit those straights at about 195-199mph.
Not 55mph..:-) You know you can do Spa in about 3&1/2 minutes
easy not 2hrs.. :-) only j/k mind you....

| Exactly my impressioin. On top of that the straights are sooo long
| that the next corner always cathes me unprepared, because I am just
| starting to believe that that straight goes around the world and that
| I am actually on the oval track:)
| Alex
| (alexti)

Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Sat, 26 May 2001 13:09:43

  Wait til the Le Mans track is released....the Mulsaane straight takes
something like  1 1/2 minutes at full throttle.
definately not a track for those with Attention Deficit Syndrome.
dave henrie





> >>Spa??????? Really?? I love Spa... But Tim Wheatley is the one I must
> >>thank for learning Spa about a year & 1/2 ago.. He really made it easy
> >>for me!! I was stuck at 3:23s-24s & then he did a complete review on
> >>my replay..
> >>Wow what a difference after his critique!! Dropped into the 3:19range
> >>is just a week. Still do 3:20s without much trouble but I've been away
> >>from GPL for awhile and I am just starting to get back into the groove
> >>again {If I have a grove??...lol} just my $0.02 :-)
> >>Cheers Thom_j.

> > Spa is boring to me.  I mean, it's a nice track, but when I'm racing I
> Exactly my impressioin. On top of that the straights are sooo long
> that the next corner always cathes me unprepared, because I am just
> starting to believe that that straight goes around the world and that
> I am actually on the oval track:)

> Alex
> (alexti)

Eldre

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by Eldre » Sat, 26 May 2001 23:16:20



>Ok Buddy Fire'up your best Chassis and I'll jam my nose up ur rear
>and chase ya all around Spa until you cant stand it anymore!! You'll
>see me all the time...haha Btw: nice site with your PBs. I like it a lot!
>The Tee'ster..

Maybe sometime this weekend...  I may be on VROC.  Thanks for the comments on
the website!

Eldred
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Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 27 May 2001 06:31:20



>Sorry Eldred I'd forgotten that, I believe you mentioned it before too. Um,
>did you try again with more graphics on? I can definitely see the trees with
>my detail slider at minimum, and *all* the square boxes on the left hand
>side ticked (clouds, driver arms etc).

>I dunno how to take screenies in D3D but if you still can't see the trees
>then I'll whip into software mode and fire off a few shots for ya... lemme
>know

Hmm...  Actually, they *are* there, even with lower graphics settings.  I just
never NOTICED them before.  Too busy trying to see the track, I guess...<shrug>

Eldred
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Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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Eldre

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by Eldre » Sun, 27 May 2001 06:31:19



>Go for it, man!!!
>Also, shouldn't use the lack of detail as an excuse.  I've probably been
>driving with just as little, if not less, detail as yourself and am now
>down to 1:57.89 in under a month with a wheel.  You've just got to be a
>little more creative when choosing where/when to brake.

Well, then you're just better at seeing something I don't see.  Since I don't
always have a visible brake point, I often crash when I brake later than I
*think* I am.  This leads to being tentative every time through those sections,
which doesn't help laptimes.

See above...

Nah, Rouen STILL sucks... :-)

Show-off...<G>

Eldred
--
Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001
Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett
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Never argue with an idiot.  He brings you down to his level, then beats you
with experience...
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