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107 percent on GPLRANK?

elh4j

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by elh4j » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:04:09

I've been looking at this page on the GPLrank site and can't seem to figure
out the signifigance of 107 percent. Can someone help me understand? It
seems as if it's something to aspire to, instead of trying to tackle beating
the world record?? But why is it 107%? Or am I completely missing something?
Jeff Hail

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by Jeff Hail » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 10:26:16

Current F1 regulations require qual at 107% or better of pole to take the
start.

Jeff

bob

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by bob » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 11:58:34

        In today's formula one racing the slowest car(s) to qualify
must be within 107% of the leaders time or they cannot race.  There's
more to the idea of a percentage ranking, but that's why it's
specifically 107.
David Kar

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by David Kar » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 12:32:45

Interesting trivia question: when was the last time a car failed to make the
grid solely because of the 107% rule?

--David


> In today's formula one racing the slowest car(s) to qualify
> must be within 107% of the leaders time or they cannot race.  There's
> more to the idea of a percentage ranking, but that's why it's
> specifically 107.

Jason Pant

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by Jason Pant » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:06:48


Ricardo Rosset, 1998 Japanese GP?

Jason Pants

"Don't go throwin' no coupons on my grave"

Tim Elhaj

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by Tim Elhaj » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 14:26:33

Ah, thanks for that explanation Bob.  Guess, I've got a lot to learn...


> >I've been looking at this page on the GPLrank site and can't seem to
figure
> >out the signifigance of 107 percent. Can someone help me understand? It
> >seems as if it's something to aspire to, instead of trying to tackle
beating
> >the world record?? But why is it 107%? Or am I completely missing
something?

> In today's formula one racing the slowest car(s) to qualify
> must be within 107% of the leaders time or they cannot race.  There's
> more to the idea of a percentage ranking, but that's why it's
> specifically 107.

GraDe

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by GraDe » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 20:40:16


In modern F1 you must qualify within 107% of the pole sitter to qualify
forthe grid...
That's basically the significance, instead of trying to beat the leaders,
just stay within reach of them.

Dave Henri

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by Dave Henri » Sun, 07 Jan 2001 23:40:45

  It's my considered opinion...(ha!)  that the 107% rule is bad for F1 and
that it ruins races.   why?  Teams 'have' to make the big race so the rest
of the teams besides Ferrari and McClaren have to devote considerable time
and money to qualifying.  I beleive many of the teams sacrifice their car's
racing ability in order to get within the 107%.
  For proof I offer former world Champion Jacques Villeneuve and the BAR
team.   How many times did we see the BAR car gridded in the top six within
about a second of the pole car?  Then what kind of lap times did it run?  5
to 6 seconds slower PER LAP in race trim.
  Ergo...to Witt(Katatarina?) and therefore....107% is bad for racing
Mr Dave Henrie
Ville V Sinkk

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by Ville V Sinkk » Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:27:42


>   It's my considered opinion...(ha!)  that the 107% rule is bad for F1 and
> that it ruins races.   why?  Teams 'have' to make the big race so the rest
> of the teams besides Ferrari and McClaren have to devote considerable time
> and money to qualifying.  I beleive many of the teams sacrifice their car's
> racing ability in order to get within the 107%.
>   For proof I offer former world Champion Jacques Villeneuve and the BAR
> team.   How many times did we see the BAR car gridded in the top six within
> about a second of the pole car?  Then what kind of lap times did it run?  5
> to 6 seconds slower PER LAP in race trim.
>   Ergo...to Witt(Katatarina?) and therefore....107% is bad for racing

We could just forbid Ferrari and McLaren from participating in the whole
series. It would improve the quality of the races considerably and we could
forget the 107% rule.

+Cinquo

bob

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by bob » Mon, 08 Jan 2001 00:42:16

        This is proof that 107% is bad???????  Utter nonsense.  Jacque
and BAR were and would be never anywhere near 107%.  If they
sacrificed race performance for grid position it was a decision that
had _absolutely nothing_ to do with 107% and probably everything to do
with the fact that it is ridiculously hard to pass in F1.

             I will grant you that this was an argument an ice skater
might use :-).

             The fact is  that Formula 1 racing for a long time has
been a "race" between 2 or 3 top teams, and the others don't stand
much of a chance.  Any team that has to even worry about qualifying
because of 107% is simply irrelevant to the "racing".   The rule just
doesn't matter, except that it keeps the big boys from having to lap a
backmarker 5 times or more.  Might make them work for a living :-).

GraDe

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by GraDe » Mon, 08 Jan 2001 04:01:14

There's ups and downs to every rule...
Even allowing traction control has a positive side.

The 107% rule just gives the Minardi's and Prosts a kick in the arse if they
are struggling.They don't want cars that are 20+% slower on the track
without eh fast cars.


Izzy..

107 percent on GPLRANK?

by Izzy.. » Mon, 08 Jan 2001 09:46:06


Not only that, but since the slower cars are weeded out, a lot of the fun
is gone.  There's no using the rolling-roadblock of traffic to your
advantage.
Instead we get boring-to-watch races where nothing really happens.


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