rec.autos.simulators

by **JTBur** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 03:40:13

I think it was Lenin or Marx. Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was Groucho Marx.

> On Sat, 13 Jul 2002 11:20:04 GMT, "Jan Verschueren"

> >I don't think being positive about a developer wanting to take racing
sims
> >in the right direction is ground for being labeled credulous/stupid nor
for
> >being ridiculed.

> I agree, and to quote someone, I forget who though..."you can't have
> evolution without revolution".

by **Jan Verschuere** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:15:54

I have actually... and, indeed, shame on me. I've been fooled more than I
care to remember. CMR2 and F1 2001 being recent examples, but I have been
led up the garden path by developer promises, dubious minimum specs and game
series decending into the arcade at every incarnation (instead of improving)
on more than one occasion.

I just don't feel fooled by the Wests and the demise of WSC. I was
enthousiastic about their concept for the game, just like I am now for WRL,
yes. I had my doubts about the feasability, just like I have now, yes. Was I
fooled? -not in my opinion. Might be splitting hairs like the vapourware
debaters, but the West never took anything from me and, in return, didn't
give anything which didn't live up to expectations.

I think it foolish to hold the Empire/WSC thing falling through against them
in this light.

Jan.
=---

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:43:02

Make your coffee's weakier Jan
Calm down, we are only here for the fun

Cya
Nigel

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:45:09

I will lose nothing Jan
All I every promised to the sim world I delivered. I have one up on the West
already

Cya
Nigel

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:52:07

Dan Dan Dan.

Man... what do you people drink. Don't talk life too seriously. You'll never
get out of it alive.

I tell you what. If WRL hit the tracks with engines idling I will be the
first to rewrite my smart ass "joke" and then tell everyone who cares to
read it to now ..... "Look at da egg on ma face "

Mello out, get more sleep, and look forward to WRL. I am

Love you Dan
Cya
Nigel

> Nigel you seem desperate and almost wild-eyed that this sim doesnt come
> out... why? I mean i can understand ppl being sceptical but u seem to have
> some other agenda... will you lose a $1000 bet if it comes out or
something?
> Ive talked to the wests quite a bit and i know ppl that have driven
beta's
> of wsc/rl and i know they do very high quality work.Why cant 2 ppl create
a
> concept like this? one person did it with x plane (a very similar concept)
> I mean what kinda games/sims do u actually like? are u a f1 2ker ?a
> gpler?why not talk about something u like rather than something u have no
> interest in except to see its failure?
> If you have nother useful to say at all why say anything? why not just
shut
> up and go back to gt3 or ridge racer?
> dan

> > I was talking to Chris and Tony at a dreamers convention yesterday and
> they
> > said that they have sponsorship for the WRL concept from the Blowin In
the
> > Wind Twightly Software house, a subsidiary of the Hoax Corporation.
> > So now they will make available a demo CD case sometime next Sunday
after
> > lunch. Sorry there will no disc in the case at this time. Please stay
> > posted for further news.

> > God bless the West Bros. Papy wannabe's.

> > Oh hi Chris, Tony. Oh man you have personally delivery my very on CD
> case.
> > And it has a lovely picture of a GPL lookalike car on it. You guys.....
I
> > don't know what to say. Thank you, Thank you, Oh thank you so much.
Kiss
> > kiss kiss.

> > Nigel (with my chin up ready for the first smack)
> > Fire proof vest set to highest protection

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 00:57:14

Holy cow Dan

It wasn't spiting bile and hate. It was a JOKE. Get over it already

Nigel

> Which really doesnt explain his 'spitting bile and hate attitude' and his
> massive hope for the wests to fail. He must have a lot of anger and hate
> inside him as ive not seen him post niceness or positivness about anything

> > > then tell me the suspense is almost killing me... if his real name is
> mark
> > > beckman ill laugh my***off
> > > :) dan

> > Well, I can't speak for how Nigel drives as I've never been on the track
> > with him, but to say "i bet you are ***at everything u do" to a person
> > who makes these http://www.racesimcentral.net/~lakewood/Redline2.htm is kinda
> > funny don't you think ? :-)

> > Beers and cheers
> > (uncle) Goy

> > "The Pits" http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> > --Groucho Marx--

by **Dan Leac** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:01:40

If that was a joke then u are a troll ...and not a very good one at that

> Holy cow Dan

> It wasn't spiting bile and hate. It was a JOKE. Get over it already

> Nigel

> > Which really doesnt explain his 'spitting bile and hate attitude' and
his
> > massive hope for the wests to fail. He must have a lot of anger and hate
> > inside him as ive not seen him post niceness or positivness about
anything

> > > > then tell me the suspense is almost killing me... if his real name
is
> > mark
> > > > beckman ill laugh my***off
> > > > :) dan

> > > Well, I can't speak for how Nigel drives as I've never been on the
track
> > > with him, but to say "i bet you are ***at everything u do" to a
person
> > > who makes these http://www.racesimcentral.net/~lakewood/Redline2.htm is kinda
> > > funny don't you think ? :-)

> > > Beers and cheers
> > > (uncle) Goy

> > > "The Pits" http://www.racesimcentral.net/

> > > "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> > > --Groucho Marx--

by **Dan Leac** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:01:55

i repeat If that was a joke then u are a troll ...and not a very good one at
that

> Dan Dan Dan.

> Man... what do you people drink. Don't talk life too seriously. You'll
never
> get out of it alive.

> I tell you what. If WRL hit the tracks with engines idling I will be the
> first to rewrite my smart ass "joke" and then tell everyone who cares to
> read it to now ..... "Look at da egg on ma face "

> Mello out, get more sleep, and look forward to WRL. I am

> Love you Dan
> Cya
> Nigel

> > Nigel you seem desperate and almost wild-eyed that this sim doesnt come
> > out... why? I mean i can understand ppl being sceptical but u seem to
have
> > some other agenda... will you lose a $1000 bet if it comes out or
> something?
> > Ive talked to the wests quite a bit and i know ppl that have driven
> beta's
> > of wsc/rl and i know they do very high quality work.Why cant 2 ppl
create
> a
> > concept like this? one person did it with x plane (a very similar
concept)
> > I mean what kinda games/sims do u actually like? are u a f1 2ker ?a
> > gpler?why not talk about something u like rather than something u have
no
> > interest in except to see its failure?
> > If you have nother useful to say at all why say anything? why not just
> shut
> > up and go back to gt3 or ridge racer?
> > dan

> > > I was talking to Chris and Tony at a dreamers convention yesterday and
> > they
> > > said that they have sponsorship for the WRL concept from the Blowin In
> the
> > > Wind Twightly Software house, a subsidiary of the Hoax Corporation.
> > > So now they will make available a demo CD case sometime next Sunday
> after
> > > lunch. Sorry there will no disc in the case at this time. Please
stay
> > > posted for further news.

> > > God bless the West Bros. Papy wannabe's.

> > > Oh hi Chris, Tony. Oh man you have personally delivery my very on CD
> > case.
> > > And it has a lovely picture of a GPL lookalike car on it. You
guys.....
> I
> > > don't know what to say. Thank you, Thank you, Oh thank you so much.
> Kiss
> > > kiss kiss.

> > > Nigel (with my chin up ready for the first smack)
> > > Fire proof vest set to highest protection

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:07:13

Na Dan I do prety well on the online stuff. Mainly GPL/Vroc. I've won a few
, lost a few. But I will never be the elite in sim racing. I will always be
in the 85% bracket. But never the top
But am I having fun, you bet ya.

Looking forward to a online in WRL. It would just be my luck Dan if you
blow me into the weeds and leave me in you dust wiping the egg off my face.
But I be a smiling as you do.

I think if you don't take my origianl wise crack at the West's to heart so
much you would see I am all for what they want to do, but I'm not gonna take
them seriously this time.

Nigel

> Just as an afterthought ...and this is only speculation, are you by any
> chance a bit ***at all the sims/games u play. I may be jumping to
> conclusions but i bet you are ***at everything u do.... maybe its just
the
> impression u give out
> dan

> > Nigel you seem desperate and almost wild-eyed that this sim doesnt come
> > out... why? I mean i can understand ppl being sceptical but u seem to
have
> > some other agenda... will you lose a $1000 bet if it comes out or
> something?
> > Ive talked to the wests quite a bit and i know ppl that have driven
> beta's
> > of wsc/rl and i know they do very high quality work.Why cant 2 ppl
create
> a
> > concept like this? one person did it with x plane (a very similar
concept)
> > I mean what kinda games/sims do u actually like? are u a f1 2ker ?a
> > gpler?why not talk about something u like rather than something u have
no
> > interest in except to see its failure?
> > If you have nother useful to say at all why say anything? why not just
> shut
> > up and go back to gt3 or ridge racer?
> > dan

> > > I was talking to Chris and Tony at a dreamers convention yesterday and
> > they
> > > said that they have sponsorship for the WRL concept from the Blowin In
> the
> > > Wind Twightly Software house, a subsidiary of the Hoax Corporation.
> > > So now they will make available a demo CD case sometime next Sunday
> after
> > > lunch. Sorry there will no disc in the case at this time. Please
stay
> > > posted for further news.

> > > God bless the West Bros. Papy wannabe's.

> > > Oh hi Chris, Tony. Oh man you have personally delivery my very on CD
> > case.
> > > And it has a lovely picture of a GPL lookalike car on it. You
guys.....
> I
> > > don't know what to say. Thank you, Thank you, Oh thank you so much.
> Kiss
> > > kiss kiss.

> > > Nigel (with my chin up ready for the first smack)
> > > Fire proof vest set to highest protection

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:24:56

I don't suppose you would ever buy a RRC pedal unit now Dan

I hope you are a good shot with eggs Dan cause I'd love egg on my face with
this WRL thing. It will only mean there will be an awsome sim available

Cya bud
Nigel :>)

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:40:12

But you love me back.. right??

Cya
Nigel

> i repeat If that was a joke then u are a troll ...and not a very good one
at
> that

> > Dan Dan Dan.

> > Man... what do you people drink. Don't talk life too seriously. You'll
> never
> > get out of it alive.

> > I tell you what. If WRL hit the tracks with engines idling I will be the
> > first to rewrite my smart ass "joke" and then tell everyone who cares
to
> > read it to now ..... "Look at da egg on ma face "

> > Mello out, get more sleep, and look forward to WRL. I am

> > Love you Dan
> > Cya
> > Nigel

> > > Nigel you seem desperate and almost wild-eyed that this sim doesnt
come
> > > out... why? I mean i can understand ppl being sceptical but u seem to
> have
> > > some other agenda... will you lose a $1000 bet if it comes out or
> > something?
> > > Ive talked to the wests quite a bit and i know ppl that have driven
> > beta's
> > > of wsc/rl and i know they do very high quality work.Why cant 2 ppl
> create
> > a
> > > concept like this? one person did it with x plane (a very similar
> concept)
> > > I mean what kinda games/sims do u actually like? are u a f1 2ker ?a
> > > gpler?why not talk about something u like rather than something u have
> no
> > > interest in except to see its failure?
> > > If you have nother useful to say at all why say anything? why not just
> > shut
> > > up and go back to gt3 or ridge racer?
> > > dan

> > > > I was talking to Chris and Tony at a dreamers convention yesterday
and
> > > they
> > > > said that they have sponsorship for the WRL concept from the Blowin
In
> > the
> > > > Wind Twightly Software house, a subsidiary of the Hoax Corporation.
> > > > So now they will make available a demo CD case sometime next Sunday
> > after
> > > > lunch. Sorry there will no disc in the case at this time. Please
> stay
> > > > posted for further news.

> > > > God bless the West Bros. Papy wannabe's.

> > > > Oh hi Chris, Tony. Oh man you have personally delivery my very on
CD
> > > case.
> > > > And it has a lovely picture of a GPL lookalike car on it. You
> guys.....
> > I
> > > > don't know what to say. Thank you, Thank you, Oh thank you so much.
> > Kiss
> > > > kiss kiss.

> > > > Nigel (with my chin up ready for the first smack)
> > > > Fire proof vest set to highest protection

by **Nigel Nichol** » Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:43:29

Good morning Goy.

I'm not normally one for throwing stones at hornet's nests but wahoo look
what I have started.

hehehe
Cya bud
Nigel

> > "Nigel Nichols" wrote...
> > > <snip>

> > <plonk>

> > Jan.
> > =---

> ROFL, I thought it was hilarious myself, but then again, a man who can
> make pedals like that can say and do whatever he wants :-)

> Beers and cheers
> (uncle) Goy

> "The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/

> "A man is only as old as the woman he feels"
> --Groucho Marx--

by **Dan Leac** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:58:10

not at all ive looked at your products with envy on many occasions... as
there url pops up on vroc all the time. I just think u should try using your
powers for good rather than evil :)
dan

by **Goy Larse** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:14:05

> Good morning Goy.

> I'm not normally one for throwing stones at hornet's nests but wahoo look
> what I have started.

I don't get it Nigel, I honestly don't, this WRL thing seems to have
people that are usually pretty well balanced, on the edge it seems, must
be something in the water

Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy

http://www.theuspits.com

"A man is only as old as the woman he feels........"
--Groucho Marx--

by **Jan Verschuere** » Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:14:31

Thanks a bunch Goy... you made me reconsider and now I'm all wound up again.
Don't do that anymore... 'k?

Jan.
=---

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