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Engines and Motors

Mitch_Alatorr

Engines and Motors

by Mitch_Alatorr » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00

With all this talk about physics/graphics engines on this NG I thought i'd
comment on the use of the word "Motor" in regard to Nascar.  To me a motor
uses watts/amps/volts and an Engine uses Carbs/Gas/plugs.  So where does
that leave the term physics/graphics "engine" in relation to the above
statement.

Being a second gen cal/okie I know "Motor is interchangeable w/engine
but...lol

Man I'm bored today :)

Mitch Alatorre
naman TEN/NROS
Team Tachyon

Nigel Nichol

Engines and Motors

by Nigel Nichol » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00


>With all this talk about physics/graphics engines on this NG I thought i'd
>comment on the use of the word "Motor" in regard to Nascar.  To me a motor
>uses watts/amps/volts and an Engine uses Carbs/Gas/plugs.  So where does
>that leave the term physics/graphics "engine" in relation to the above
>statement.

Mitch.

I like your point and maybe I'm a little bored too but here's
a twist.
Being a fuel head I agree that a  carbed, fuel-injected, turbo
and/or supercharged internal combustion engines are "engines"
not "motors". So why do we say "motorbikes". I would prefer
that the world be retrained to saying "Enginebikes" but I'm
not Bill Gates so motorbikes it is.

I own a Nissan Skyline GTS 2.0 Litre Twin Cam inline six,  
which buy fuel injected non-turbo standards are reguarded as
high performance and one should think twice about picking on
one at the lights.
The engines in these Skyline GTS's are the basis of the
Skyline GTR "Godzilla" 4 WD Twin Turbos that out ran the 5.0
litre V8's at the Australian Bathhurst 100 k race in 1990 ??.
They were banned from the race. There is a quite a few here in
New Zealand and in fact a 2.6 litre version in the lastest NZ
Performance Car mag features one that was clocked at 310 KPH.
Not bad for a 2.6 litre six cyclinder.

Anyway my point is after all that raving is that the motors in
my car drive the wipers and electric windows while the engine
drives rear wheels. (sometimes spinning them due to another go
at the lights.)

Engine are for fuel heads.
Motors are for cake mixers.

Take care
Nigel

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DAVI

Engines and Motors

by DAVI » Fri, 28 May 1999 04:00:00

Yes you are correct and engine is something assocaited with a fuel driven
device, like a car.

A motor is an electric device.

Dave

Ron Ayto

Engines and Motors

by Ron Ayto » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00

Wrong...     well partly anyway....  <G>

An Engine is a mechanical contrivance, using fuel through internal
combustion to generate motive output.

A Motor is a machine for supplying motive power, regardless of the fuel
it uses.  An electric motor uses electricity to produce it's output,
where as a motor in a motor vehicle, normally uses a combustible fuel,
such as petrol, diesel or gas.
It is still classed as a motor.
Any contrivance that provides motive motion is classed as a motor, that
includes the internall combustion engine. :)
Cheers,
Ron



Matthew V. Jessic

Engines and Motors

by Matthew V. Jessic » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00


> A motor is an electric device.

Nah, a motor is 32,000 pounds of rocket propellant
in a composite case ;)

- Matt

Jeff Sharp

Engines and Motors

by Jeff Sharp » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00

<snip>

<snip>

I see you follow the "If you're going to distort the truth, then do it in a
big way" line of thinking.

Just because the motorsport authorities no longer support a class of racing
does not mean a particular car is banned or do you also maintain that the
GTR was banned in England because they went to a two litre touring car
category. Using your statement you could also say that any model of car that
ran in those days (including the V8s) were also banned because they didn't
meet the requirements of the new categories. We might have a V8 touring car
category in Aust today but the rules covering vehicle modifications are
different to the Group A rules .

I do agree that GTR is an awesome car. But it was also the car that caused
the world wide demise of the old group A touring car category because no
other manufactures were prepared to spent the sort of money that Nissan put
into the GTR. It was a car build specifically for racing in this category,
not a modified standard production model that was build by other
manufacturers.

Matthias Fla

Engines and Motors

by Matthias Fla » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00

On Fri, 28 May 1999 13:32:21 +1000, "Jeff Sharpe"


>>The engines in these Skyline GTS's are the basis of the
>>Skyline GTR "Godzilla" 4 WD Twin Turbos that out ran the 5.0
>>litre V8's at the Australian Bathhurst 100 k race in 1990 ??.
>>They were banned from the race.
>I do agree that GTR is an awesome car. But it was also the car that caused
>the world wide demise of the old group A touring car category because no
>other manufactures were prepared to spent the sort of money that Nissan put
>into the GTR. It was a car build specifically for racing in this category,
>not a modified standard production model that was build by other
>manufacturers.

In the 24h on the Nuerburgring (http://www.24h-rennen.de/) next week,
two GTR models (R33 + R34) made entries.
See list of cars (http://www.ks-design.de/24h/1_fahrzeuge.htm).
Plus several other cars will do demo laps.

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Matthias Fla

Engines and Motors

by Matthias Fla » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00



So Steppenwolf has to change the "Born To Be Wild" lyrics:
"Get your engine runnin', ..."?

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Bruce Kennewel

Engines and Motors

by Bruce Kennewel » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00

As any electrician would tell you, a "motor" is driven by electricity and an
"engine" by either steam or via internal combustion.

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>>Being a fuel head I agree that a  carbed, fuel-injected, turbo
>>and/or supercharged internal combustion engines are "engines"
>>not "motors". So why do we say "motorbikes". I would prefer
>>that the world be retrained to saying "Enginebikes" but I'm
>>not Bill Gates so motorbikes it is.

>So Steppenwolf has to change the "Born To Be Wild" lyrics:
>"Get your engine runnin', ..."?

>--
>Matthias Flatt

Ronald Stoe

Engines and Motors

by Ronald Stoe » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00


> As any electrician would tell you, a "motor" is driven by electricity and an
> "engine" by either steam or via internal combustion.

As soon as rock bands are listening to electricians concerning their lyrics
I'll stop listening to rock bands... ;^)

l8er
ronny

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> >So Steppenwolf has to change the "Born To Be Wild" lyrics:
> >"Get your engine runnin', ..."?

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Piers C. Structure

Engines and Motors

by Piers C. Structure » Sat, 29 May 1999 04:00:00



Hows about a rocket car...

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Tim (fusio

Engines and Motors

by Tim (fusio » Sun, 30 May 1999 04:00:00




>So Steppenwolf has to change the "Born To Be Wild" lyrics:
>"Get your engine runnin', ..."?

Motorhead will probably need to change their name to Enginehead, too.
It just doesn't have the same ring to it.

Tim

Ron Ayto

Engines and Motors

by Ron Ayto » Sun, 30 May 1999 04:00:00

I dunno, i think Enginehead has a certain charismatic appeal..
<G>
Good one Tim, i had a good laugh over that one.  :)
Cheers,
Ron




> >On 27 May 1999 22:43:06 GMT, Nigel Nichols



> >So Steppenwolf has to change the "Born To Be Wild" lyrics:
> >"Get your engine runnin', ..."?

> Motorhead will probably need to change their name to Enginehead, too.
> It just doesn't have the same ring to it.

> Tim

Nigel Nichol

Engines and Motors

by Nigel Nichol » Sun, 30 May 1999 04:00:00

Holy cow man

Chill out dude. Don't take life so serious, you won't get out
of it alive.

I said banned from THE race. Not banned period.

I mearly  stated that the GTR was banned from the (I think the
James Hardie 1000 at the time), because they had a unfair
advantage of twin turbo no holds barred power to weight
ratio and 4 wheel drive .Besides the race is far better as a
fuelhead V8 only race in any case.

Oh and I was lucky enough to take a R33 GTR for a 20 min or so
drive as it belonged to a friend. Lucky there were not
cops around. hehehe . Sadly he sold it and bought a RS500
Cosworth instead. :>(

Nigel Nichols

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Nascar Coruba & Coke Chevy
Hamilton
New Zealand

Murphb

Engines and Motors

by Murphb » Mon, 31 May 1999 04:00:00

OK...here's a UNIX geek's two cents worth...

"Engine" is the correct term to use in relation to computers, even though they
are electrical devices.  A couple hundred years ago, Charles Babbage designed
the "Difference Engine", a hand-cranked computer for performing calulations.
It used punched cards for programming and binary math.

Earlier in this century, the "Turing Engine" was another theoretical computer.

In today's terms, a computer "engine" is a semi-autonomous process, often used
in databasing or modelling (ie.- sim physics engines).

Bob


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