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GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

Steve Blankenshi

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Steve Blankenshi » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 00:04:35



> > Seems a bit grippier than I'd expect of
> > vintage tires,

> Yeah, like they use vintage tyres.

Uh...yeah, like the treaded, DOT-legal 5.25M-13's on the Elan or the
pathetically undersized 5.50/6.00-15's of the Vette (trying to contain 550NM
of torque).  The 'Vette seems properly gripless, but the Elan sticks
amazingly well.  Guess that's what 1450lbs will do for you, even with hard
compounds and period-correct aspect ratios.

I believe the '76's can run slicks; that should be interesting.  Lots of
power and mechanical grip without much in the way of downforce.  Yum...

Mitch_

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Mitch_ » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:05:02

Ya know Uwe, your MS bashing was kinda cute years ago.  Now its just plain
silly.

No one is forcing you to use anything MS.  Why do you feel the need to
belittle anyone that does?  Ego?

There is a reason why MS has the market and it hasnt a thing to do with
politics.  Its about quality software, and while the open source (ponytail
people) crowd believes they have a competitive product just look at the
numbers.  Even free, open source hasnt any market share.  Whats that say?
To me it says "not ready for prime time"...

Mitch

Mitch_

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Mitch_ » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:06:26

Ok, Strange ;)


have no issue with a WW2 FPS - just call me strange...

jon

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by jon » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 01:45:14


Mitch, with statements like "open source hasn't any market share", I'm
guessing you don't work in IT?

Mitch_

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Mitch_ » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:18:43

You guessed wrong.

WTH has open source market share have to do with IT...  Economics maybe, not
IT..

OK perhaps I worded it wrong, Ive been known to do that and more than likely
it isnt the last time..

OK then.  "There is a reason why MS isnt losing Market Share to the open
source communtiy".  Better?  Sheesh, just a bit ***are we?

source hasn't any market share", I'm

jon

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by jon » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:40:17


The same reason IE's userbase isn't being eroded by Firefox?

Malc

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Malc » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 02:45:02


I'd agree with that. Best compliment you can give to a sim nowadays,
everything else seems to be down to personal taste ;-)

Malc.

whoo

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by whoo » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:13:36


> You guessed wrong.

> WTH has open source market share have to do with IT...  Economics maybe, not
> IT..

> OK perhaps I worded it wrong, Ive been known to do that and more than likely
> it isnt the last time..

> OK then.  "There is a reason why MS isnt losing Market Share to the open
> source communtiy".  Better?  Sheesh, just a bit ***are we?


> source hasn't any market share", I'm

>>guessing you don't work in IT?

Mitch, here's 2cents, go get yourself a clue!
whoo

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by whoo » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:15:32





>>>Seems a bit grippier than I'd expect of
>>>vintage tires,

>>Yeah, like they use vintage tyres.

> Uh...yeah, like the treaded, DOT-legal 5.25M-13's on the Elan or the
> pathetically undersized 5.50/6.00-15's of the Vette (trying to contain 550NM
> of torque).  The 'Vette seems properly gripless, but the Elan sticks
> amazingly well.  Guess that's what 1450lbs will do for you, even with hard
> compounds and period-correct aspect ratios.

> I believe the '76's can run slicks; that should be interesting.  Lots of
> power and mechanical grip without much in the way of downforce.  Yum...

Do they use vintage *** compounds?
Steve Blankenshi

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Steve Blankenshi » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 04:16:47






> >>>Seems a bit grippier than I'd expect of
> >>>vintage tires,

> >>Yeah, like they use vintage tyres.

> > Uh...yeah, like the treaded, DOT-legal 5.25M-13's on the Elan or the
> > pathetically undersized 5.50/6.00-15's of the Vette (trying to contain
550NM
> > of torque).  The 'Vette seems properly gripless, but the Elan sticks
> > amazingly well.  Guess that's what 1450lbs will do for you, even with
hard
> > compounds and period-correct aspect ratios.

> > I believe the '76's can run slicks; that should be interesting.  Lots of
> > power and mechanical grip without much in the way of downforce.  Yum...

> Do they use vintage *** compounds?

I think they use tires aged for years and years in some dank Belgian
ba***t.  No, that was Lance Armstrong.  Wrong sport.

Better compounds for sure, but there's only so much you can do with 5-6
inches of relatively hard compound, treaded DOT *** and 70+ series
sidewalls.

reggie whit

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by reggie whit » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:06:27


> You guessed wrong.

> WTH has open source market share have to do with IT...  Economics maybe, not
> IT..

> OK perhaps I worded it wrong, Ive been known to do that and more than likely
> it isnt the last time..

> OK then.  "There is a reason why MS isnt losing Market Share to the open
> source communtiy".  Better?  Sheesh, just a bit ***are we?

Mitch, all you need to do is learn English. Most people here have a hard
time understanding you because you have difficulty speaking the
language. That's all.
whoo

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by whoo » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:07:58








>>>>>Seems a bit grippier than I'd expect of
>>>>>vintage tires,

>>>>Yeah, like they use vintage tyres.

>>>Uh...yeah, like the treaded, DOT-legal 5.25M-13's on the Elan or the
>>>pathetically undersized 5.50/6.00-15's of the Vette (trying to contain

> 550NM

>>>of torque).  The 'Vette seems properly gripless, but the Elan sticks
>>>amazingly well.  Guess that's what 1450lbs will do for you, even with

> hard

>>>compounds and period-correct aspect ratios.

>>>I believe the '76's can run slicks; that should be interesting.  Lots of
>>>power and mechanical grip without much in the way of downforce.  Yum...

>>Do they use vintage *** compounds?

> I think they use tires aged for years and years in some dank Belgian
> ba***t.  No, that was Lance Armstrong.  Wrong sport.

> Better compounds for sure, but there's only so much you can do with 5-6
> inches of relatively hard compound, treaded DOT *** and 70+ series
> sidewalls.

What are the tyre regulations for the series that GTL simulates?
Michael Horto

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Michael Horto » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 06:09:33

The number of FireFox downloads went down last night while IEs went up.

Just thought I'd toss that in.



>> OK perhaps I worded it wrong, Ive been known to do that and more than
>> likely it isnt the last time..

>> OK then.  "There is a reason why MS isnt losing Market Share to the open
>> source communtiy".

> The same reason IE's userbase isn't being eroded by Firefox?

Steve Blankenshi

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Steve Blankenshi » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:17:22


http://www.fia.com/resources/documents/651580482__AppK_2005_a.pdf

Sec. 6.12 on wheels, sec. 8 on tires.  The Dunlop vintage series 204 is a
treaded, hard compound, bias ply tire.  Looking at the series site
http://www.fia-historic-racing.com it appears like they were trying to do
away with the Dunlop-only reg and replace it with a simple reg on external
tire dimensions for each rim size, which would have to match the spec size
of the original rims.  But the above is a 2005 reg and the Dunlops are what
are spec'ed in the game.

For some fun vids on how crappy they hook up on a Corvette, check out the
GT2 & GT3 vids at http://www.fia-historic-racing.com/en/archive/videos/.  No
wonder the Lotus kicks it's arse!

Mitch_

GTL corvette - sounds glorious!

by Mitch_ » Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:42:22

IE isnt Office.



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