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SB Live value...

Stephe

SB Live value...

by Stephe » Mon, 19 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Okay , just picked up GPL and a voodoo3.

It looks like I'm hooked .

Now I'm going to upgrade the dusty old soundcard.

But before I jump, is there any "hardware" difference between the
Soundblaster Live X-gamer, MP3+, and Value editions?

__
Stephen

Joeri Co

SB Live value...

by Joeri Co » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Stephen,

The X-Gamer and MP3 edition are exactly the same on the hardware front. Only
difference is the software.
About the Value edition: this is an older version though differences to the
other two are VERY small. The other two have a digital output, which can be
used if you own the FPS2000 or DTT5.1 speakersets from Cambridge. The
usefulness of this remains a disputed subject however...

My advice is to just go for the cheapest of the three you can find. You
won't regret it. Oh, and by the way, the speakers I mentioned above sound
absolutely fantastic... :)
---
Joeri J. Cox
J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
Co-founder of 502 Racing

European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl



Joeri Co

SB Live value...

by Joeri Co » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Instead of DTT5.1 I mean DTT2500 of course....
---
Joeri J. Cox
J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
Co-founder of 502 Racing

European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl



> Stephen,

> The X-Gamer and MP3 edition are exactly the same on the hardware front.
Only
> difference is the software.
> About the Value edition: this is an older version though differences to
the
> other two are VERY small. The other two have a digital output, which can
be
> used if you own the FPS2000 or DTT5.1 speakersets from Cambridge. The
> usefulness of this remains a disputed subject however...

> My advice is to just go for the cheapest of the three you can find. You
> won't regret it. Oh, and by the way, the speakers I mentioned above sound
> absolutely fantastic... :)
> ---
> Joeri J. Cox
> J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
> Co-founder of 502 Racing

> European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl



> > Okay , just picked up GPL and a voodoo3.

> > It looks like I'm hooked .

> > Now I'm going to upgrade the dusty old soundcard.

> > But before I jump, is there any "hardware" difference between the
> > Soundblaster Live X-gamer, MP3+, and Value editions?

> > __
> > Stephen

daxe

SB Live value...

by daxe » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00


  Minor correction:

The SBLive Value has a connector for the digital out, but you have to run a
little pigtail to a separate bracket with the connector (included) to use
it.  The other two have the connector right on the bracket for the card with
everything else.

I have an SBLive! Value and FPS2000 speakers connected with the digital out.
It sounds awesome.  If you don't need the extra software with the MP3 and
Xgamer cards, definately go for the Value.

~daxe

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Ray

SB Live value...

by Ray » Tue, 20 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Mine did not have a little connector. Could you post how to do this?




> > Stephen,

> > The X-Gamer and MP3 edition are exactly the same on the hardware front.
> Only
> > difference is the software.
> > About the Value edition: this is an older version though differences to
> the
> > other two are VERY small. The other two have a digital output, which can
> be
> > used if you own the FPS2000 or DTT5.1 speakersets from Cambridge. The
> > usefulness of this remains a disputed subject however...

>   Minor correction:

> The SBLive Value has a connector for the digital out, but you have to run
a
> little pigtail to a separate bracket with the connector (included) to use
> it.  The other two have the connector right on the bracket for the card
with
> everything else.

> I have an SBLive! Value and FPS2000 speakers connected with the digital
out.
> It sounds awesome.  If you don't need the extra software with the MP3 and
> Xgamer cards, definately go for the Value.

> ~daxe

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daxe

SB Live value...

by daxe » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00


There is a little header on the card itself, about the size of the usual
soundcard to CD-ROM connector, though a diferent shape.  It is referred to
in the manual.

Now that I think about it, the bracket with the digital connector might have
come with the FPS2000 speaker system, though I am sure they can't be that
hard to find otherwise.  It isvery similar to a PS/2 pigtail, in case you
have ever had to deal with putting one of those in.

You just plug the connector onto the little header on the card,***the
bracket into a blank slot opening and you're all set.

I'll look and see if I can track down that connector and post back.

~daxe

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daxe

SB Live value...

by daxe » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

OK..apparently the Creative labs /Cambridge soundworks speakers are the only
ones that can give a digital connection to the SBLive!, that would explain
the inclusion of a proprietary connector with the speakers.

Hope I didnt***anyone up with my partial info.

~daxe




> > Mine did not have a little connector. Could you post how to do this?

> There is a little header on the card itself, about the size of the usual
> soundcard to CD-ROM connector, though a diferent shape.  It is referred to
> in the manual.

> Now that I think about it, the bracket with the digital connector might
have
> come with the FPS2000 speaker system, though I am sure they can't be that
> hard to find otherwise.  It isvery similar to a PS/2 pigtail, in case you
> have ever had to deal with putting one of those in.

> You just plug the connector onto the little header on the card,***the
> bracket into a blank slot opening and you're all set.

> I'll look and see if I can track down that connector and post back.

> ~daxe

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Joeri Co

SB Live value...

by Joeri Co » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

I have both the Live! Value and the FPS2000 set of speakers, but no bracket
or connector. Sounds like typical "Let's***those Euros off" policy by not
including that stuff here in the Netherlands

---
Joeri J. Cox
J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
Co-founder of 502 Racing

European Racing League - http://www.racesimcentral.net/



> OK..apparently the Creative labs /Cambridge soundworks speakers are the
only
> ones that can give a digital connection to the SBLive!, that would explain
> the inclusion of a proprietary connector with the speakers.

> Hope I didnt***anyone up with my partial info.

> ~daxe





> > > Mine did not have a little connector. Could you post how to do this?

> > There is a little header on the card itself, about the size of the usual
> > soundcard to CD-ROM connector, though a diferent shape.  It is referred
to
> > in the manual.

> > Now that I think about it, the bracket with the digital connector might
> have
> > come with the FPS2000 speaker system, though I am sure they can't be
that
> > hard to find otherwise.  It isvery similar to a PS/2 pigtail, in case
you
> > have ever had to deal with putting one of those in.

> > You just plug the connector onto the little header on the card,***
the
> > bracket into a blank slot opening and you're all set.

> > I'll look and see if I can track down that connector and post back.

> > ~daxe

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daxe

SB Live value...

by daxe » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00


I would scream to Creative Labs if I were you!  That is completely
senseless..to leave out the very piece that enables the connection the
speakers were designed around!  Mine was even listed in the installation
book as one of the things that was included, along with the stands and all
the other stuff.

~daxe

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R. A. Crab

SB Live value...

by R. A. Crab » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

How old is your SB Live! Value?   This appears to be an upgrade as the original
SB Live! Value (I have one the first ones) didn't have the digital connection. I
found this fact out after I bought both the SB Live! Value and the FPS2000's!!
This fact was stated on the Web page for the original Sound Blaster Live! and
Live! Value product comparisons.  I just checked and can't find a link to these
older products.  Great support...... not!

RC


> I have both the Live! Value and the FPS2000 set of speakers, but no bracket
> or connector. Sounds like typical "Let's***those Euros off" policy by not
> including that stuff here in the Netherlands

> ---
> Joeri J. Cox
> J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
> Co-founder of 502 Racing

> European Racing League - http://www.racesimcentral.net/

daxe

SB Live value...

by daxe » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

ok..this is bugging me.  I rummaged around and located the FPS2000 paperwork
and found the insert about getting a digital signal from the SBLive!.

The top diagram shows a straight connection to the digital out on the card's
bracket.

The second section says "If your card does not have either the Digital I/O
card or the digital out jack, use this method."

1. Switch off your PC...blah blah blah
~
~
4. Connect the SPDIF bracket's cable to the SPDIF_EXT connector on your
audio card.
~
~

The bracket came with the speakers.  It looks exactly like the bracket of
any other card and has only one connector on it, a 9 pin "Digital DIN"
female connector.  The header for this connection is not in line on the edge
with the other connectors on the SBLive! card (cd audio, pc speakers, etc.),
but is alone, centered at the end of the card farthest from the bracket.  It
should be labelled "SPDIF_EXT."

My card is pretty old, I ordered it on 11/17/98

~daxe

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Raymond, ACT LA

SB Live value...

by Raymond, ACT LA » Wed, 21 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hmm.. I have a pair of Altec Lansing speakers with SPDIF input.
Anyone know if there is any way I can get the SB Live to work with
these speakers?

Raymond
ACT LABS
www.act-labs.com



>How old is your SB Live! Value?   This appears to be an upgrade as the original
>SB Live! Value (I have one the first ones) didn't have the digital connection. I
>found this fact out after I bought both the SB Live! Value and the FPS2000's!!
>This fact was stated on the Web page for the original Sound Blaster Live! and
>Live! Value product comparisons.  I just checked and can't find a link to these
>older products.  Great support...... not!

>RC


>> I have both the Live! Value and the FPS2000 set of speakers, but no bracket
>> or connector. Sounds like typical "Let's***those Euros off" policy by not
>> including that stuff here in the Netherlands

>> ---
>> Joeri J. Cox
>> J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
>> Co-founder of 502 Racing

>> European Racing League - http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Joeri Co

SB Live value...

by Joeri Co » Thu, 22 Jun 2000 04:00:00

Hey thanks for the info. I will contact CL to get the bracket one way or the
other.
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Joeri J. Cox
J_Cox on N3 - ICQ# 60159253
Co-founder of 502 Racing

European Racing League - http://drive.to/erl




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