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Tony Rickar

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by Tony Rickar » Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:00:00

I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC.

Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this
evening - good enough for a front row grid position :)

Unfortunately his racing etiquette needs needs developing - just silly
errors rather than blatant over aggression.

So I wondered if there were other GPL kids out there, alternatively a server
devoted to novices. I don't want to dampen his enthusiasm but equally don't
want to upset any VROC die hards he might tangle up with.

Anyone else in a similar position?

Cheers

Tony

Jon Anderse

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by Jon Anderse » Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:00:00

Wow!!

That 10 year old will make a lot of grown men cry :-)

Don't let the kid drive the Lotus....

Jon

ymenar

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by ymenar » Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:00:00


Oh gosh...

At least my excuse to have a slower laptime with the Ferrari there is that I
HATE the car ;-D

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de_sheph..

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by de_sheph.. » Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:00:00



My son who's just turned 4 occasionally likes to play "racing cars" on
the computer - either "racing cars" GPL or "racing cars with roofs on"
(i.e. N3 demo). As for PB ... well, getting all the way around the track
would be an achievement when its so much more exciting to drive into
walls etc or decide to backtrack a bit because it looks more interesting
that way :-)

Anyway current big e***ment is that he got a toy Nascar car for his
birthday (Jeff Gordon 24 to be precise) and he can see "my car" on the
computer. Slightly concerned with his keen-ness on Nascar (and worse
Nascar Trucks :-) but at least he was able to recognise a Ferrari on TV
coverage of F1 GPs at the age of 2 so perhaps there's still hope :-)

As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will
take me another 10 years to get to that point :-)

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Dave Henri

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by Dave Henri » Wed, 19 Apr 2000 04:00:00


> > Anyone else in a similar position?

> My son who's just turned 4 occasionally likes to play "racing cars" on
> the computer - either "racing cars" GPL or "racing cars with roofs on"
> (i.e. N3 demo). As for PB ... well, getting all the way around the track
> would be an achievement when its so much more exciting to drive into
> walls etc or decide to backtrack a bit because it looks more interesting
> that way :-)

> Anyway current big e***ment is that he got a toy Nascar car for his
> birthday (Jeff Gordon 24 to be precise) and he can see "my car" on the
> computer. Slightly concerned with his keen-ness on Nascar (and worse
> Nascar Trucks :-) but at least he was able to recognise a Ferrari on TV
> coverage of F1 GPs at the age of 2 so perhaps there's still hope :-)

  How can he recognize the Ferrari's with that Gawd Awful Orange
Paintjob??

  Does the Mafia take contracts on Ten year Olds???
dave (slower than Eldred) henrie

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Shane Lowr

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by Shane Lowr » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

i think more of a point is the number of guys that would really hate to get
their asses kicked by a 10 yo

Shane


Martyn Danb

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by Martyn Danb » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

nvr broke 30 in the red car at Monza and i 3x his age +(

Md



> > > Anyone else in a similar position?

> > My son who's just turned 4 occasionally likes to play "racing cars" on
> > the computer - either "racing cars" GPL or "racing cars with roofs on"
> > (i.e. N3 demo). As for PB ... well, getting all the way around the track
> > would be an achievement when its so much more exciting to drive into
> > walls etc or decide to backtrack a bit because it looks more interesting
> > that way :-)

> > Anyway current big e***ment is that he got a toy Nascar car for his
> > birthday (Jeff Gordon 24 to be precise) and he can see "my car" on the
> > computer. Slightly concerned with his keen-ness on Nascar (and worse
> > Nascar Trucks :-) but at least he was able to recognise a Ferrari on TV
> > coverage of F1 GPs at the age of 2 so perhaps there's still hope :-)

>   How can he recognize the Ferrari's with that Gawd Awful Orange
> Paintjob??

> > As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will
> > take me another 10 years to get to that point :-)

>   Does the Mafia take contracts on Ten year Olds???
> dave (slower than Eldred) henrie

> > Sent via Deja.com http://www.racesimcentral.net/
> > Before you buy.

Eldre

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by Eldre » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00


>> As for 10-year olds doing 1:29 at Monza .... aaaargh! I think it will
>> take me another 10 years to get to that point :-)

>  Does the Mafia take contracts on Ten year Olds???
>dave (slower than Eldred) henrie

Gee thanks, Dave...<g>

Eldred
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kevinga

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by kevinga » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00


As a point of interest, a certain gentleman by the name of Foyt won his
first midget dirt oval race in a match duel against the track champion, when
he was 5!

Talk about a grown man crying.

Martyn Danb

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by Martyn Danb » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

thats is a good one...

Guess it goes to show that some of us hooman's will never be able to
touch them aliens out there on the track, so take heart gents!! and
don't even compare yerselvs.  Just resign yerself to a life of
mediocrity!

Md




> > i think more of a point is the number of guys that would really hate to
> get
> > their asses kicked by a 10 yo

> > Shane

> As a point of interest, a certain gentleman by the name of Foyt won his
> first midget dirt oval race in a match duel against the track champion, when
> he was 5!

> Talk about a grown man crying.

Eldre

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by Eldre » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00



>I finally caved in and let my 10 year old son loose on VROC.

>Mikey (M. Rickard) set a PB of 1:29.82 in a Ferrari at Monza on-line this
>evening - good enough for a front row grid position :)

>Unfortunately his racing etiquette needs needs developing - just silly
>errors rather than blatant over aggression.

>So I wondered if there were other GPL kids out there, alternatively a server
>devoted to novices. I don't want to dampen his enthusiasm but equally don't
>want to upset any VROC die hards he might tangle up with.

>Anyone else in a similar position?

>Cheers

>Tony

Tell me you're kidding...your *10* year old has a PB of 1:29.82?!?  I better
stop replying - any further comments I might make would be unsuitable for his
hears(eyes)... :-)

Eldred
p.s. if there's enough call for a 'kiddie server', let me know.  I could
arrange that...  I just couldn't keep UP with them, apparently...<sigh>
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Tony Rickar

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by Tony Rickar » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00

The intention wasn't to brag about my lad's lap times - although I guess I
am a little proud :-). More to try to figure how a young lad would fit in to
the "***" world of semi serious sim racing compared to arcade ***.

Inevitably his race maturity is lacking. My concern is that he might get
tangled up and ruin someone else's race - for which I have to have a high
degree of responsibility by allowing him to join. The second concern is that
VROC is assumed to be an *** arena, do we really want kids joining in?
Hence the question of whether there are other youngsters around who could
join specific races.

I have been surprised at Mikey's performance in GPL - I didn't expect a kid
to be able to master GPL to that level, what has surprised me is his
persistence in going through the pain of the learning curve, something kids
tend not to do. If he could put as much effort into school...

Of course it leaves me a shade disappointed. GPL is the only computer game
left I can beat him. Gran Tourismo I can accept (can't master a joypad to
drive a car). Unreal Tournament (too slow on the fire button). Fifa99
(controls again - haven't played since losing 9-0). TOCA2 (must be arcade if
he can beat me!). But GPL is an *** game - my years of driving experience
and knowledge of motor racing will always beat a young kid who lacks such
experience. Or so I thought....

Mind you it wouldn't be the first time I was beaten at GPL by a driver yet
to pass his test. Perhaps Mikey is my long term revenge for a certain
G.Nash!

Anyway - if Eldred has sufficient demand for the "kiddie" server I wonder
how many ***s here will lie about their age - just to make sure they can
beat them!

Cheers

Tony

"EldredP" wrote

m.seer

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by m.seer » Thu, 20 Apr 2000 04:00:00


The second concern is that

This would be my concern as a parent Tony. If the kid has racing ability,
which by all acounts he is, I'm sure he would aquit himself at least as well
as the many idiots whose manners leave a lot to be desired.

However, If it was my boy racing, I'd be inclined to ensure that the chat
function is not running when he is looking for races. We all know that VROC
indulges in some colourful topics and choice of vocabulary all to often
these days.

Regards

MS

BTW. Yes I am guilty of the aforementioned indulgences from time to time.
However, as you say, It's generally regarded as an *** domain.

PoPaxSmu

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by PoPaxSmu » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

i wanna race your kid... im 16 but i was sim racing when i was around 10 too (i
was winning races in f1gp on the pro level or whatever that one was before ace)

did you ever think about putting your kid in a kart?  theres lots of 7-12 year
olds racing 80cc comer powered go-karts

how does he do on the other tracks?

oh yea... and what YOUR PB at monza :)

Tony Rickar

Junior GPL

by Tony Rickar » Fri, 21 Apr 2000 04:00:00

"PoPaxSmuRF" wrote
ace)

Sure - we could arrange a convenient time on VROC and drop in on a dedicated
server

E-mail me or post to the group if you think others may be interested.

He has had a couple of runs on indoor circuits - did ok, but no racing was
allowed for his age group.

I do need to sort something more serious out for him

Watkins Glen 1:07s. That & Monza are all he has really spent any time on.

Hmmm :)  mid 1:28s in Lotus but only low 1:29s in Ferrari :(
Guess it is time to practice!

Cheers

Tony


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