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by J » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:24:42

Probably all those who intend to buy the momo should ask Logitech about their
spare-parts policy *in advance*.
Would be interesting <g>

JensSchumi

>I've read the reviews and I can see why people like it, but the two
>things that concern me are: first, those still look like very
>short-travel pedals; and second I have heard from far too many people
>that you cannot get spare parts for Logitech controllers. Thanks for
>your reply though.

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by J » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:24:43

Don,
I expect from a wheel manufacturer that he stocks at least wear-parts pots,...
Without confirmation I would not buy their product.

Wait a moment....

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by **Haqsa** » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 12:56:23

At the very least it would be nice to know if they use standard pots in
the wheel and pedals, as opposed to the proprietary parts they used in
the GP. At least that way when they do wear out I can replace them with
parts bought from an electronics store.

> Probably all those who intend to buy the momo should ask Logitech
about their
> spare-parts policy *in advance*.
> Would be interesting <g>

> JensSchumi

> >I've read the reviews and I can see why people like it, but the two
> >things that concern me are: first, those still look like very
> >short-travel pedals; and second I have heard from far too many people
> >that you cannot get spare parts for Logitech controllers. Thanks for
> >your reply though.

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> http://jensschumi.tripod.com/

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by J » Fri, 16 Nov 2001 21:45:00

Yup

JensSchumi

>At the very least it would be nice to know if they use standard pots in
>the wheel and pedals, as opposed to the proprietary parts they used in

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by **Stephen Smit** » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:19:12

What's really needed are not pots (avail from almost anywhere), but
mechanicals & CBs. Alison Hine tells me that the main diff between the
Taiwanese & Chinese LWFFs are circuit boards; a nickel & dime item that
*should* be readily available, but isn't. I'm not going to waste any more $
chasing junked Logi h/w just to keep my LWFF going; there are better options
avail w. better support.

> The new pedals for the Momo wheel are a huge improvement over the original
> LWFF pedals and for spare parts check out Mike Bay's website:
> http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm

> --
> don
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> > I've read the reviews and I can see why people like it, but the two
> > things that concern me are: first, those still look like very
> > short-travel pedals; and second I have heard from far too many people
> > that you cannot get spare parts for Logitech controllers. Thanks for
> > your reply though.

by **Stephen Smit** » Sat, 17 Nov 2001 22:19:56

Their spare-parts "policy" is simple: FU.

> Probably all those who intend to buy the momo should ask Logitech about
their
> spare-parts policy *in advance*.
> Would be interesting <g>

> JensSchumi

> >I've read the reviews and I can see why people like it, but the two
> >things that concern me are: first, those still look like very
> >short-travel pedals; and second I have heard from far too many people
> >that you cannot get spare parts for Logitech controllers. Thanks for
> >your reply though.

> ---------------------------------------------
> LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
> http://jensschumi.tripod.com/

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by **Larr** » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 17:05:22

I believe that it is US law that manufacturers must carry spare parts for 7
years after the discontinuance of a product.

I am NOT sure that applies to everything, though...

-Larry

> >The new pedals for the Momo wheel are a huge improvement over the
original
> >LWFF pedals and for spare parts check out Mike Bay's website:
> >http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm

> ---------------------------------------------
> LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
> http://jensschumi.tripod.com/

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by J » Sun, 18 Nov 2001 18:50:51

To read more about the differences between Chinese and Taiwan wheels, check out
my webpage.
Where can you get the pots from? I know that CH offers exactly the same type,
but I find those quite pricy for that lousy quality.
Standard pots don't have a flattened shaft and that tabs, which prevent the pot
from (casing) turning.

About the cirquit boards: I doubt that anybody has really fried a board yet by
normal use. The thermistor is a different story but seems to be with the motor -
I'm working on that

Cya
Jens

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by **REDLINE42** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:25:59

President Reagan reduced the law for Auto manufactures requirements to
supply replacement parts from (I believe) 15 years to 10 years.

I remember this from when I got a letter from Chrysler Corp. announcing that
they were selling off old excess inventory in the mid 80's. A lot of 60's
Muscle car freaks found a gold mine in this law change.

I don't know if this applies to all goods sold in the United States or not.
Maybe the Clinton Administration mucked around with this law a little
further to "Stimulate his Economy"?

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by **Haqsa** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 02:42:47

I don't think that applies. The guys on the Wingman team told me that
they do not and will not sell spare parts.

> I believe that it is US law that manufacturers must carry spare parts
for 7
> years after the discontinuance of a product.

> I am NOT sure that applies to everything, though...

> -Larry

> > Don,
> > I expect from a wheel manufacturer that he stocks at least
wear-parts
> pots,...
> > Without confirmation I would not buy their product.

> > Wait a moment....

> > JensSchumi

> > On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:44:54 -0800, "don hodgdon"

> > >The new pedals for the Momo wheel are a huge improvement over the
> original
> > >LWFF pedals and for spare parts check out Mike Bay's website:
> > >http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm

> > ---------------------------------------------
> > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
> > http://jensschumi.tripod.com/

> > GPLRank: -14.82
> > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

by **Ric** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 03:51:08

> I have to say that Tom and TC at Logitech have provided more in-person
> support than I've ever experienced from a company... Ever...

> I find it quite refreshing in these days of "We takes yous money, you takes
> yous chances".

> You want bad support? Buy a SideWinder... Actually, bad support is
> incorrect. NO support is more accurate.

> -Larry

> > My Logitech Wingman Formula Force GP wheel spiked me off the end of the
> > back straight at Monza for the last time today - it is on its way to the
> > trash dump. I have been corresponding with the Wingman Team for almost
> > a month, trying to find a solution, and they have not fixed it. I'm not
> > going to waste any time discussing that, suffice it to say that I need a
> > new wheel and it will not be a Logitech. I'm looking for a medium
> > priced force feedback wheel that has clamps that are either big enough
> > to fit around a 5 inch deep desk drawer or shallow enough to grab the
> > one inch ledge in front of it. Anybody know of such a thing?

I'll just keep using my CH racing wheel that keeps snapping the tension springs.
I've only repaired it 7 times already...but hey, for 25 bux....how can ya lose?? :^|

by **Stephen Smit** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:29:55

Only to real cars, not simulated ones--LOL!

> I believe that it is US law that manufacturers must carry spare parts for
7
> years after the discontinuance of a product.

> I am NOT sure that applies to everything, though...

> -Larry

> > Don,
> > I expect from a wheel manufacturer that he stocks at least wear-parts
> pots,...
> > Without confirmation I would not buy their product.

> > Wait a moment....

> > JensSchumi

> > On Fri, 9 Nov 2001 21:44:54 -0800, "don hodgdon"

> > >The new pedals for the Momo wheel are a huge improvement over the
> original
> > >LWFF pedals and for spare parts check out Mike Bay's website:
> > >http://website.lineone.net/~mikebay/MTIndex.htm

> > ---------------------------------------------
> > LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
> > http://jensschumi.tripod.com/

> > GPLRank: -14.82
> > Monsters of GPL: sub 95

by **Stephen Smit** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 09:32:01

I got a couple of 'em from Newark Electronics, which stocks pots of every
size & description (along with engineering drawings). They were small dia.,
w. std. shafts, Mil-spec & fairly expensive, but they last forever.

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> >What's really needed are not pots (avail from almost anywhere), but
> >mechanicals & CBs. Alison Hine tells me that the main diff between the
> >Taiwanese & Chinese LWFFs are circuit boards; a nickel & dime item that
> >*should* be readily available, but isn't. I'm not going to waste any
more $
> >chasing junked Logi h/w just to keep my LWFF going; there are better
options
> >avail w. better support.

> ---------------------------------------------
> LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at:
> http://jensschumi.tripod.com/

> GPLRank: -14.82
> Monsters of GPL: sub 95

by **REDLINE42** » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:22:50

Yea I guess this would be classified as a "Toy". :-(

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1907 - Daytona Beach Florida

Glenn H. Curtiss rode a V8 powered motorcycle
to a 136.30 mph record in the measured mile.

The Chicago Daily News headline reads:
"Fastest Mile On Earth, Bullets Are The Only Rivals Of Glenn Curtiss"

by J » Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:03:13

Obviously toys don't count (at least seems so)
I read from someone in UK that he was able to obtain a power brick from
Logitech. But I still have to hear about anybody, who got an integral part like
cirquit board or pots from them. Logitech had a quite convenient way to handle
warranty claims though, they simply sent a all new unit while stock was
available. Unluckily this didn't work in the area where I live :-(

Cya
Jens

>I believe that it is US law that manufacturers must carry spare parts for 7
>years after the discontinuance of a product.

>I am NOT sure that applies to everything, though...

>-Larry

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