rec.autos.simulators

> > > Sort of a "milestone" for me, since I've never completed a 100% length
> > race
> > > in any sim before. I usually find sims more fun to play doing hotlaps
> with
> > > friends.

> > > Anyways, I did a 100% length race in GTR2002 using the Ferrari 360 at
> Spa
> > > with AI at 96%, and managed to come in 16th with a full field of GT
and
> > NGT
> > > cars. I used the setup that I downloaded that came with the game. I
> think
> > it
> > > was "360_DA_V2" or something like that. I did a 3-pit strategy, so my
> > friend
> > > and I could divide the race up into two times at the wheel each, so
> > > 12/12/12/13 laps. 16th sounds impressive, but it was second last of
the
> > NGT
> > > class :)

> > > Here's my observations:

> > > - About half the field didn't finish, Mostly due to failures it
seemed.
> I
> > > can't imagine that being too accurate. I had failures and all the
> > > wear-related settings at "normal".
> > > - Through Eau Rouge, the AI seems to slow down way more than it should
> > have
> > > to. Making it pretty dangerous since I'm going significantly faster
(no,
> I
> > > don't cut off the track on the exit).
> > > - Cars infront would sometimes spin out or make little mistakes, very
> cool
> > > and scary.
> > > - Blue flags are a bit excessive. I understand them and all, but it
> seems
> > > like it applies in situations where it shouldn't. Example, It's hard
to
> > gain
> > > a lap back from the cars in your own class. A caught up to a Porsche
> that
> > > was a lap ahead of me, and when I passed him, I got blue flagged to
let
> > him
> > > pass me back. So, to avoid being Black Flagged, I would have had to
pass
> > > him, and pull away really far in only a few corners.
> > > - The Porsche's break lights are really hard to see.
> > > - It seems like cars in a pack seem to go significantly slower than
when
> > > they are spread out.
> > > - GT cars seem to hang up for a long time before passing NGT cars. I
> > noticed
> > > a few sections it seems where the NGT car probably should have got
Black
> > > Flagged.
> > > - The game rocks.
> > > - What's with the qualifying times? GT and NGT cars seem to be
> qualifying
> > at
> > > close to the same speed.
> > > - I also find their qualifying times hard as hell to beat, and I
> qualified
> > > in last place. But, I was just using the race setup, since I don't
have
> a
> > > qualifying setup.
> > > - The game rocks.

> > > Here's a few subsequent questions:
> > > - Do the cars have their own pit strategy, or do they do whatever you
> are
> > > doing?
> > > - Say I pit a lap early, will the pit crew adjust the amount of fuel
> they
> > > give me to cover for that extra lap?
> > > - What should I do to increase my qualifying time? Cause I'm stinkin'
> > > - Why do I exit the game when I pull into the pit with a knocked off
> > > spoiler? Seems like an easy fix to me, instead I get retired. Or is
that
> > GT
> > > regulations?

> > > Anyways, full props to everyone that worked/contributed to the Mod. I
> can
> > > see why everyone has been gushing about it for so long. Full props to
me
> > for
> > > doing a 100% race without serious incident, even though I only drove
50%
> > of
> > > the race and my friend did the other half :)

> > > Mike
> > > http://mikebeauchamp.com

> >    Nice report Mike, thanks.  To bad the online aspect isn't better;
most
> of
> > the problems listed wouldn't exist <g>

> > John

> >Yeah, I got a stop&go as well. I think I'm going to disable the flags
too.
> >Thanks!

> What are you guys getting stop and go penalties for?  Passing under
> yellow or pit violations?

> Jason

> >Wow.. awesome. I'll definately give those suggestions a try!

> You probably won't be setting any record times with that approach, but
> I can usually outqualify the NGT AI by 1-3 seconds depending on the
> track.

> If you're interested I can post the hotlap replays I have from the
> tracks I've tested at so far.

> The other thing I'd say is that for a full length race you might want
> to bump the rear wing back up to 15 to compensate for the sudden loss
> of grip when the tires wear.  I'd keep the diff low and I always run
> with a 1 brake duct (otherwise it seems the brakes never heat up as
> much as I'd like).  As far as rev limit/radiator goes you might want
> to set them back to the default 4/8400 if you find you're blowing too
> many engines, the only 100% race I've run so far was in the rain so I
> can't really guarantee the motor will hold up.  Just make sure you
> adjust the gearing to so you aren't smacking the limiter in 6th gear
> if you choose to lower it.

> I'm pretty bad at setting up a car, so I tend to focus on things that
> make a huge difference and getting the tire temps even.  The other
> thing that seems to work well is running the rear bar as soft as it
> will go for maximum grip at the rear (will help compensate for the low
> rear wing as well) and soften the front bar to about the same value
> then raise/lower it slightly until you get a good balance.  I'm awful
> at tuning shocks so I'll stop with that.

> A 25% diff rocks.  You can really feel the car trying to turn when you
> release the brakes (assuming you're off the throttle) and putting the
> gas down *** exits keeps the car turning nicely

> The 360 is definitely my favorite car in the game.  As long as you run
> short gears and use 2nd for the hairpins/90's you can really pound the
> throttle without a lot of wheelspin and the oversteer/understeer seems
> more manageable than with other cars.

> Lemme know if you want me to post those replays and setups.

> Jason

> > Sort of a "milestone" for me, since I've never completed a 100% length
> race
> > in any sim before. I usually find sims more fun to play doing hotlaps
with
> > friends.

> > Anyways, I did a 100% length race in GTR2002 using the Ferrari 360 at
Spa
> > with AI at 96%, and managed to come in 16th with a full field of GT and
> NGT
> > cars. I used the setup that I downloaded that came with the game. I
think
> it
> > was "360_DA_V2" or something like that. I did a 3-pit strategy, so my
> friend
> > and I could divide the race up into two times at the wheel each, so
> > 12/12/12/13 laps. 16th sounds impressive, but it was second last of the
> NGT
> > class :)

> > Here's my observations:

> > - About half the field didn't finish, Mostly due to failures it seemed.
I
> > can't imagine that being too accurate. I had failures and all the
> > wear-related settings at "normal".
> > - Through Eau Rouge, the AI seems to slow down way more than it should
> have
> > to. Making it pretty dangerous since I'm going significantly faster (no,
I
> > don't cut off the track on the exit).
> > - Cars infront would sometimes spin out or make little mistakes, very
cool
> > and scary.
> > - Blue flags are a bit excessive. I understand them and all, but it
seems
> > like it applies in situations where it shouldn't. Example, It's hard to
> gain
> > a lap back from the cars in your own class. A caught up to a Porsche
that
> > was a lap ahead of me, and when I passed him, I got blue flagged to let
> him
> > pass me back. So, to avoid being Black Flagged, I would have had to pass
> > him, and pull away really far in only a few corners.
> > - The Porsche's break lights are really hard to see.
> > - It seems like cars in a pack seem to go significantly slower than when
> > they are spread out.
> > - GT cars seem to hang up for a long time before passing NGT cars. I
> noticed
> > a few sections it seems where the NGT car probably should have got Black
> > Flagged.
> > - The game rocks.
> > - What's with the qualifying times? GT and NGT cars seem to be
qualifying
> at
> > close to the same speed.
> > - I also find their qualifying times hard as hell to beat, and I
qualified
> > in last place. But, I was just using the race setup, since I don't have
a
> > qualifying setup.
> > - The game rocks.

> > Here's a few subsequent questions:
> > - Do the cars have their own pit strategy, or do they do whatever you
are
> > doing?
> > - Say I pit a lap early, will the pit crew adjust the amount of fuel
they
> > give me to cover for that extra lap?
> > - What should I do to increase my qualifying time? Cause I'm stinkin'
> > - Why do I exit the game when I pull into the pit with a knocked off
> > spoiler? Seems like an easy fix to me, instead I get retired. Or is that
> GT
> > regulations?

> > Anyways, full props to everyone that worked/contributed to the Mod. I
can
> > see why everyone has been gushing about it for so long. Full props to me
> for
> > doing a 100% race without serious incident, even though I only drove 50%
> of
> > the race and my friend did the other half :)

> > Mike
> > http://mikebeauchamp.com

>    Nice report Mike, thanks.  To bad the online aspect isn't better; most
of
> the problems listed wouldn't exist <g>

> John

> > Sort of a "milestone" for me, since I've never completed a 100% length
> race
> > in any sim before. I usually find sims more fun to play doing hotlaps
with
> > friends.

> > Anyways, I did a 100% length race in GTR2002 using the Ferrari 360 at
Spa
> > with AI at 96%, and managed to come in 16th with a full field of GT and
> NGT
> > cars. I used the setup that I downloaded that came with the game. I
think
> it
> > was "360_DA_V2" or something like that. I did a 3-pit strategy, so my
> friend
> > and I could divide the race up into two times at the wheel each, so
> > 12/12/12/13 laps. 16th sounds impressive, but it was second last of the
> NGT
> > class :)

> > Here's my observations:

> > - About half the field didn't finish, Mostly due to failures it seemed.
I
> > can't imagine that being too accurate. I had failures and all the
> > wear-related settings at "normal".
> > - Through Eau Rouge, the AI seems to slow down way more than it should
> have
> > to. Making it pretty dangerous since I'm going significantly faster (no,
I
> > don't cut off the track on the exit).
> > - Cars infront would sometimes spin out or make little mistakes, very
cool
> > and scary.
> > - Blue flags are a bit excessive. I understand them and all, but it
seems
> > like it applies in situations where it shouldn't. Example, It's hard to
> gain
> > a lap back from the cars in your own class. A caught up to a Porsche
that
> > was a lap ahead of me, and when I passed him, I got blue flagged to let
> him
> > pass me back. So, to avoid being Black Flagged, I would have had to pass
> > him, and pull away really far in only a few corners.
> > - The Porsche's break lights are really hard to see.
> > - It seems like cars in a pack seem to go significantly slower than when
> > they are spread out.
> > - GT cars seem to hang up for a long time before passing NGT cars. I
> noticed
> > a few sections it seems where the NGT car probably should have got Black
> > Flagged.
> > - The game rocks.
> > - What's with the qualifying times? GT and NGT cars seem to be
qualifying
> at
> > close to the same speed.
> > - I also find their qualifying times hard as hell to beat, and I
qualified
> > in last place. But, I was just using the race setup, since I don't have
a
> > qualifying setup.
> > - The game rocks.

> > Here's a few subsequent questions:
> > - Do the cars have their own pit strategy, or do they do whatever you
are
> > doing?
> > - Say I pit a lap early, will the pit crew adjust the amount of fuel
they
> > give me to cover for that extra lap?
> > - What should I do to increase my qualifying time? Cause I'm stinkin'
> > - Why do I exit the game when I pull into the pit with a knocked off
> > spoiler? Seems like an easy fix to me, instead I get retired. Or is that
> GT
> > regulations?

> > Anyways, full props to everyone that worked/contributed to the Mod. I
can
> > see why everyone has been gushing about it for so long. Full props to me
> for
> > doing a 100% race without serious incident, even though I only drove 50%
> of
> > the race and my friend did the other half :)

> > Mike
> > http://mikebeauchamp.com