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I'm in the OSRL league for GPL. There aren't any rules(except have fun), and
we have some great races. No points, no stats - seems to work fine...
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It seems that the sense of speed is just not there, at least on MY system. You
can be 40-60 mph faster than the paceline, and it's not apparent until you're
right THERE. I've run up on the pack a bit quicker than I expected before.
But since I always stagger my alignment, it hasn't caused a problem(except
one).
This race will have caution flags, with *single* file restarts. Drivers who
want to run, *please* read the rules on John's site:
http://www.racesimcentral.net/;There will likely be modifications to those
rules in the future, but this is a good start.
Unfortunately, I'm going to start eliminating drivers if we can't drive
cleanly. :-(
Eldred
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> >It really would be nice to run yellows, but our group has demonstrated
> >time and time again that we simply can't do it. Nobody knows how to do
> >a pace lap (much less what the pace speed is), everyone's too ***in
> >busy chatting, and it's just not a good mix. Add toi the mix the fact
> >that only about 50% of those that show up put in any ptractice at all,
> >and MAYBE 10% of those who practiced tried at least one offline race
> >against the AI to see how the car handles in traffic at the track in
> >question.
> Question: where IS the pace speed stated for each track? You can tell the
> pitlane speed because your spotter tells you. It the pace speed always 10
mph
> faster than that?
> >I am firmly convinced that we're gonna end up doing 30-40 laps under
> >yellow - again. If you ask me, that's bullshit because we run one or two
> >laps and someone loses it somewhere and brings out yet another caution -
> >we barely get any ***in heat in the tires before someone wrecks again.
> >Let's not forget some people's inability to judge distance and relative
> >speed when catching up to the end of the pace line, and we see yet more
> >incidents.
> It seems that the sense of speed is just not there, at least on MY system.
You
> can be 40-60 mph faster than the paceline, and it's not apparent until
you're
> right THERE. I've run up on the pack a bit quicker than I expected
before.
> But since I always stagger my alignment, it hasn't caused a problem(except
> one).
> >I think that if this does in fact happen, we seriously consider tuirning
> >off yellows permenantly because I have much better things to do than to
> >do 50% of a race under caution.
> This race will have caution flags, with *single* file restarts. Drivers
who
> want to run, *please* read the rules on John's site:
> http://www.racesimcentral.net/;There will likely be modifications to
those
> rules in the future, but this is a good start.
> Unfortunately, I'm going to start eliminating drivers if we can't drive
> cleanly. :-(
> Eldred
John
> >The first few RASCAR races were quite clean, what happened to change
that?
> More people started joining. With only 9 or 10 cars, it was easier to
stay our
> of each other's way. With 30+, it gets a bit harder...
> >Can a "Just for fun" league really even exist? In my mind "Just for Fun"
> >and "racing" don't co-exist well. Even a fun league needs a basic rule
set
> >and and enforcement policy.
> I'm in the OSRL league for GPL. There aren't any rules(except have fun),
and
> we have some great races. No points, no stats - seems to work fine...
> Eldred
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John
It's called "adrenaline". :)
The problem is that we're such a loose conglomeration of drivers that
it's impossible to assume that everyone will "get the word". Besides
that, some folks that get the word will claim that they didn't entirely
understand the ruleset.
That is (and damn well should be) up to the driver.
What if they don't have smoke turned on?
There's really nothing you can do about the lack of common sense in
another driver's actions except to hope that he gets a clue before the
next race.
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> >It really would be nice to run yellows, but our group has demonstrated
> >time and time again that we simply can't do it. Nobody knows how to do
> >a pace lap (much less what the pace speed is), everyone's too ***in
> >busy chatting, and it's just not a good mix. Add toi the mix the fact
> >that only about 50% of those that show up put in any ptractice at all,
> >and MAYBE 10% of those who practiced tried at least one offline race
> >against the AI to see how the car handles in traffic at the track in
> >question.
> Question: where IS the pace speed stated for each track?
Evidently not. Pace speed is 70 mph at MIS, but pit lane speed is only
55.
Just approach the pace line at/near the apron of the track.
You're going to have to use the invite list to do that.
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"John Simmons" >
That's what the Server checkbox ''force smoke" is for....of course it
goes part n parcel with force***pit... :)
dave henrie
I don't necessarily agree about the yellows.
IMHO, not having Yellows takes a lot of the racing out of the race,
especially since Pit strategy is so important in fixed races (or any long
races, for that matter).
The push out of turn 2 is a handful. Be ready!
-Larry
I would like to see both. I can understand smoke since some people
may need to have it turned off for performance reasons, but I think
force***pit should be checked. I wonder how many RASCAR drivers
DON'T use***pit view?
Brian Oster
>>It really would be nice to run yellows, but our group has demonstrated
>>time and time again that we simply can't do it. Nobody knows how to do
>>a pace lap (much less what the pace speed is), everyone's too ***in
>>busy chatting, and it's just not a good mix. Add toi the mix the fact
>>that only about 50% of those that show up put in any ptractice at all,
>>and MAYBE 10% of those who practiced tried at least one offline race
>>against the AI to see how the car handles in traffic at the track in
>>question.
>Question: where IS the pace speed stated for each track? You can tell the
>pitlane speed because your spotter tells you. It the pace speed always 10 mph
>faster than that?
Brian Oster
>What if they don't have smoke turned on?
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> >> If you see a buch of smoke in front of you maybe it
> >> might be a good idea to start slowing down so that you can avoid what
> >> is up ahead.
> >What if they don't have smoke turned on?
> Maybe I should "force smoke"...<g>
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