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Advice on wheel/pedals combo

Doug Appleya

Advice on wheel/pedals combo

by Doug Appleya » Sat, 01 Sep 2001 22:28:32


> I have the new Logitech FF GP and they really aren't as bad as what people
> say.  They seem light and cheap but work great, no problems yet.  I also
> hear that the pedals on the new GP are better than the old ones.
> If your going to use it a lot I would go for the Act Labs.  I'm planning to
> switch myself as I race a lot and what a top end unit.  Only problem is that
> Act Labs is on back order.  I am currently getting setup as an Act Labs
> dealer for Eastern Canada so if your in Canada let me know.

I have one of these.  The plastic screws used to loosen during
play.  But I fixed it with a kludge, which I haven't advertised
in a while, so here it is again:

http://www.racesimcentral.net/

Actually it's in my attic now, since I picked up an
original LWFF from justdeals.com last winter.

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SimRace

Advice on wheel/pedals combo

by SimRace » Sun, 02 Sep 2001 03:07:26

Just curious as to why you don't run your TSW any longer? Lack of FF? I find
it to be the smoothest wheel I have ever used short of that found in a Buick
Park Ave ULTRA or a Caddy, lol. I have sowrn off FF, just a personal choice.
I never found it (FF) to be that good in the Papy line anyway, which is my
primary focus with racing sims. I gave it a fair shot though, had my LWFF
for about 9 months of hard use.

I still like the Thrustmaster line (regardless of who makes them) I guess it
goes to back to my first wheel being that old Thrusty T2. After driving N1
for 2 weeks with the keyboard, that wheel was like a gift from the
heavens...one of my league mates is still using that T2 with a 3rd set of
pots and a 3rd bungy.

Have a great Labor Day

Sim


> I'm sorry Simracer for being the one to break it to the poor guy but
> you must admit I did tell him there were $80+ jobbers too! haha :)
> Since you are giving your "I have" wheel info out I will too.. I have
> the Thrustmaster aka Guillemot FFB Ferrari Race Wheel & love it!
> I beat the ***out of it too and I have burnt one out in a year.. All
> I did was call "Guillemot" and got a brand new one with the return
> of my oldie.. Not bad...eh?? and they are only about $130 USD :)
> P.S. My old ones were TM GP1 & Sprint +a TSW2 momo wheel


> | Now Thom, don't scare him like that! My TSW2 Cup even after adding the
> | split-axis was still less than $500...barely. LOL
> |
> | Back OT though, I have used Thrustmaster (T2) and Logitech (LWFF) wheels
> in
> | the past and they were ok, but twere I looking for what I call a
> "consumer"
> | level wheel today I would look at the Act-Labs units. I'd probably get
> their
> | Force RS and just not use the FF, I hear the wheel itself is fairly
smooth
> | and FF being a "taste" thing that I don't have a taste for any longer.
> |
> | Just do yourself a favor and follow your instincts, you will need a
wheel
> to
> | really enjoy those software titles.
> |
> | Simracer



> | > Phil makes a good point. You can go about as high as $1000 for a
> | > TSW wheel or as low as about $80+ for an MS or TM etc. wheel.
> | > Try to look at the time you'll use it for now and move from there!
> | > Bottom line: Get the most bang for the $buck$ in what you need!!
> | > Good luck.. -Thom_j.
> | >

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Thom j

Advice on wheel/pedals combo

by Thom j » Sun, 02 Sep 2001 11:29:41

Well SimRacer, the TSW2 was ok but remember I use my hands for
gas-brake and the TSW2 seemed to be a little 'clunky-ish' big for me.
Now you have to remember I have limited space & my Ferrari wheel
just works perfectly for my needs.
On FF verses Non'FF, One would have been here a year before my
Ferrari but since I must have gas-brake paddles it was awhile before
the TM Ferrari came out, but once it did, it's Aces for me! I cut my
PB GPL times at least a sec on each track in a week... So this dude
will never go back to Non'FF as the FF lets me feel more of what I
would expect to feel in a real car or at least it fools me too!..lol :)
So the TSW2 is fine but the FF & the Ferrari Wheel cant be beat in
my book!! I actually now have one I use and one always in the box
just in case the one I'm using now goes on the blink!! and yes I am
obcessive.. :)
Happy Labor Day 2 U 2 & 2 all the others that celebrate it 2 :)
Cheers -Thom_j.

| Just curious as to why you don't run your TSW any longer? Lack of FF? I
find
| it to be the smoothest wheel I have ever used short of that found in a
Buick
| Park Ave ULTRA or a Caddy, lol. I have sowrn off FF, just a personal
choice.
| I never found it (FF) to be that good in the Papy line anyway, which is my
| primary focus with racing sims. I gave it a fair shot though, had my LWFF
| for about 9 months of hard use.
|
| I still like the Thrustmaster line (regardless of who makes them) I guess
it
| goes to back to my first wheel being that old Thrusty T2. After driving N1
| for 2 weeks with the keyboard, that wheel was like a gift from the
| heavens...one of my league mates is still using that T2 with a 3rd set of
| pots and a 3rd bungy.
|
| Have a great Labor Day
|
| Sim
|
|
| > I'm sorry Simracer for being the one to break it to the poor guy but
| > you must admit I did tell him there were $80+ jobbers too! haha :)
| > Since you are giving your "I have" wheel info out I will too.. I have
| > the Thrustmaster aka Guillemot FFB Ferrari Race Wheel & love it!
| > I beat the ***out of it too and I have burnt one out in a year.. All
| > I did was call "Guillemot" and got a brand new one with the return
| > of my oldie.. Not bad...eh?? and they are only about $130 USD :)
| > P.S. My old ones were TM GP1 & Sprint +a TSW2 momo wheel
| >
| > | Now Thom, don't scare him like that! My TSW2 Cup even after adding the
| > | split-axis was still less than $500...barely. LOL
| > |
| > | Back OT though, I have used Thrustmaster (T2) and Logitech (LWFF)
wheels
| > in
| > | the past and they were ok, but twere I looking for what I call a
| > "consumer"
| > | level wheel today I would look at the Act-Labs units. I'd probably get
| > their
| > | Force RS and just not use the FF, I hear the wheel itself is fairly
| smooth
| > | and FF being a "taste" thing that I don't have a taste for any longer.
| > |
| > | Just do yourself a favor and follow your instincts, you will need a
| wheel
| > to
| > | really enjoy those software titles.
| > |
| > | Simracer
| >

| > | > Phil makes a good point. You can go about as high as $1000 for a
| > | > TSW wheel or as low as about $80+ for an MS or TM etc. wheel.
| > | > Try to look at the time you'll use it for now and move from there!
| > | > Bottom line: Get the most bang for the $buck$ in what you need!!
| > | > Good luck.. -Thom_j.
| > | >
| >

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nathant

Advice on wheel/pedals combo

by nathant » Mon, 22 Oct 2001 03:19:37

I read those thrustmaster Ferrari 360 Force Feedback wheel combos (along
with the non-FF wheels) are really nice. I still use my Thrustmaster Formula
T2 that I've been using for a few years now and to tell you the truth I
haven't found another wheel that offered the cushy and very nice ***
steering wheel. They're normally very plastic feeling. However, the
Thrustmaster Ferrari wheels (I'm sure the Nascar ones do too) have the
***ized steering wheel too. Plus the price range is from $49 to $129.
That's really, really competitive for the price.

No, I don't work for Thrustmaster, but I am a very satisfied user.


Elaunoi

Advice on wheel/pedals combo

by Elaunoi » Tue, 23 Oct 2001 01:07:25

yeah !! i got this wheel and it's the best !! the microsoft isn't as good at
it ..


> I read those thrustmaster Ferrari 360 Force Feedback wheel combos (along
> with the non-FF wheels) are really nice. I still use my Thrustmaster
Formula
> T2 that I've been using for a few years now and to tell you the truth I
> haven't found another wheel that offered the cushy and very nice ***
> steering wheel. They're normally very plastic feeling. However, the
> Thrustmaster Ferrari wheels (I'm sure the Nascar ones do too) have the
> ***ized steering wheel too. Plus the price range is from $49 to $129.
> That's really, really competitive for the price.

> No, I don't work for Thrustmaster, but I am a very satisfied user.



> > After a long time on flight sims and strategy games, I picked up copies
> > of GPL, NFS:PU, VR, CART, NL, and N3 for myself and my kid (I'll leave
> > it to you to conclude who made the choices).

> > We've been using the big Microsoft Force Feedback stick, but this
> > presents obvious limitations in driving sims.  However, next week I've
> > got a birthday coming up, and my wife can't think of anything to get me.

> > Seems to me this sets the stage to ask for a good PC steering wheel and
> > pedals combination.  Is there any frontrunner among the offerings from
> > Act Labs, MSFT, Logitech, or any one else?

> > Sorry if this has been asked and answered a million times before.

> > Paul

Pipe

Advice on wheel/pedals combo

by Pipe » Tue, 20 Nov 2001 11:27:15

I love my dexxa, it was a gift. It's comfortable, does the job, looks
cool enough and was priced right(I'm told).
Piper.
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