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Why does nobody play NASCAR Legends?

Kai Fulle

Why does nobody play NASCAR Legends?

by Kai Fulle » Tue, 18 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Robert is it really that hard to understand that using the GPL physics model
has nothing to do with the NASCAR cars driving like 1967 F1 cars?

The physics engine is the environment in which the cars exist. NASCAR 4 is
using the same physical rules, not the same cars. Once again, for those of
us that re so very slow...

In real life: 1967 F1 and 2000 NASCAR's use the exact same physics, they are
just different cars.

In Papy game: 167 F1 and 2000 NASCAR use the same physics,l but are
different cars. Robert is it really that hard to understand that using the
GPL physics model has nothing to do with the NASCAR cars driving like 1967
F1 cars?

The physics engine is the environment in which the cars exist. NASCAR 4 is
using the same physical rules, not the same cars. Once again, for those of
us that re so very slow...

In real life: 1967 F1 and 2000 NASCAR's use the exact same physics, they are
just different cars.

In Papy game: 1967 F1 and 2000 NASCAR use the same physics,l but are
different cars.

It's the physics engine not the car modeling that is being carried over from
GPL.

F12k carried over the physics engine from SCGT, that doesn't mean that they
drive the same, but is just made a bit harder. Heck the Lotus and Eagle in
GPL use the same physics, but drive quite differently.




> > how do you know N4 will have an exaggerated tail happy car model if you
> > haven't driven it?

> Where did I say N4 was going to be this way, I stated that a tail happy
> physics engine from GPL isn't the solution.

> If your surmising that "Will use the GPL physics engine"
> > means that the  game will be using GPL car modeling you're wrong. What
it
> > means is that the game will use the same physics, with different cars,
> just
> > like in real life all the cars exist in the same physical world, but
drive
> > very differently.

> > An enhanced 3rd generation physics model (the one used in GPL) is in no
> way
> > related to the N3, N2, ICR2... physics modeling, so what your aren't
> getting

> Its a toned down GPl engine nothing new or enahnced about it.

> > with N4 is another rehashed NASCAR title. This will guarantee what you
> call
> > "Better track physics" (what ever track physics are)

> Track physics are having more than one fast groove, having changing
grooves
> during the race , have the track change due to weather changes during the
> race (which brings up a another thing)

> and definitely better
> > lap times and more realistic setups. As a matter of fact, I think it was
> > papy that said you could drop in a real setup and have the car perform
> very
> > close to it's real life counterpart.

> This remains to be seen I have talked to people who drove the game ay E3
and
> they say you can drive on the aprons through turns just Like N1-N3, this
is
> very disappointing.

> > As for AI, from what I've heard GPL is much better than the legacy
NASCAR
> > stuff, so Papy's newest work should be an advancement over legacy
NASCAR.

> Yes GPl has better Ai than papy's Nascar titles but they aren't that great
> they will battle your for about 2 laps then they give up after you pass
> them.

> > As for online, I believe Nascar Heat will only allow something like 8
> > players,

> It has been stated in a interview that this could possible set to a higher
> number

> which works pretty wall in N3, let alone that times you get 20
> > people going good. I'm sure papy is doing what they can with current
> > internet architecture, which isn't great.

> > FWIW, whether or not a game is bad, piracy is still robbery. If you plan
> to
> > play the game, then you are morally obligated to buy the game, or not
play

> I'm not obilgated to do nothing that I don't feel  like I need to do.

> > it. If you decide to be one of the downfallers of society who don't
think
> of
> > community, but only self interest, then I guess you'll just be another
> > person forcing the governments to make stupid laws.

> They do that regardless, all I meant from my post is that I will not
support
> Papyrus once again like I have since 1994 unless the demo shows so great
> stuff, if it doesn't they won't get my money again. I have bought every
game
> they have released since N1 with promises on top of promises of what th
> egame will have and what will get once we get the  game (NROS for one and
> authnic Nascar racing for another) just to be jipped by them for $50 each
> time and I won't fall for it again.

> Robert


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