rec.autos.simulators

Tommi Pajari

As I understand it, Crammond was working on a "Superbike Grand Prix"
game to use the same basic engine as F1GP2. It is no longer listed on
their web site so perhaps they gave up the idea. Bombard

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|> > F1 demands the most physical strength from the drivers,
|> >if you know how much g-force they suffer throughout the 2 hour race. F1 also
|> >demands the most concentration from the drivers, if you know they don't have
|> >caution laps very often (maybe once or twice in a year?). All the drivers
|> >go flat out and try to gain split seconds in every corner.
|>   You mean that Nascar drivers dont go through all of this!  Give me a
|> break all racing requires alot of concentration from the drivers.  All
|> racing puts G forcer on their drivers,  you obviously dont realise how
|> much g-forces are put on a driver in a high bank race track.

Ha! I wasn't saying NASCAR drivers don't suffer from g-forces. For certain
they don't suffer as much. How many times do they have to brake from 200mph
to 50mph and accelerate back up to 180mph every lap? Remember, not only
the cornering g-forces that count, drivers also suffer braking/accelerating
g-forces. You obviously don't realize this.

|>   You are saying Nascar drivers dont go flat out!  Nascar drivers go
|> flat out all the time just like F1 drivers do.  Just because there are
|> yellow in Nascar doesnt mean Nascar drivers dont go through what F1
|> drivers have to.  I am sure both forms of racing require just as much
|> from the driver.

What's the point of going flat out during the caution laps??? Do they gain
any advantages of doing so? I thought there might be a few caution laps
every ~20 laps or so. I am sure during the caution laps, the drivers must
be in a more relaxed condition. Compared to F1, the drivers are concentrating
throughout the whole race.

|>>If you think that the richest team in F1 wins the most races, then I again
|>>point it out to you, you are wrong again. McLaren is among one of the richest
|>>team in the sport, however they are not winning for two seasons.
|>   Does a team with half the money of McLaren, or any other big buck
|> team in F1, ever win a race?  Enough said!
               ^^^^
Obviously you don't watch F1 races very often. I am sure Michael Schumacher
and Nelson Piquet both won races for Bennetton when it was still a "small
team" compared to the "big boys" several years back.

|>   What kind of experience do you have to say F1 is the ultimate
|> challenge?  Nascar and F1 are totally two different sports and each of
|> them are a challenge to who ever drives in them.  According to you,
|> any F1 driver can jump right in to a Nascar car and blow away
|> everyone.  I really doubt that this would happen, maybe after they get
|> the experience but not right at first.  But then again if you are a
|> great driver then you could go from Nascar to F1 or F1 to Nascar and
|> be a champion.
|>  Instead of putting down a sport you obviously dont know much about,
|> try and understand it first!  A real race fan can watch any form of
|> racing and atleast respect the fact the it is a challenge in its on
|> respect.   You just cant say one is more demanding thant the other
|> because you dont have any experience in neither.  You do have the
|> right though to enjoy one over the other and respect they fact that
|> someone else might enjoy something different!

Ok, what kind of experience (or theory) do you have to prove that NASCAR
is _as_ demanding _as_ F1?

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At last, some more people with a taste for *exciting* racing. C'mon
Papyrus or Crammond, lets see a decent Motorcycle Sim. They are everywhen
in the arcades, why not at home ?
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Yes, add me to the list of one who wants a GP moto sim,
Accolades "The Cycles" is getting old in the tooth. While
I do love open wheel racing, I do believe it takes far
more cajones to race a 500cc GP bike than any open wheeled
racing car.  Hunter

Dave Bowers

        Nope except a great game I like (not a sim but cool) is Road Rash

Stuart.

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DG> As I understand it, Crammond was working on a "Superbike Grand Prix"
DG> game to use the same basic engine as F1GP2. It is no longer listed
DG> on their web site so perhaps they gave up the idea. Bombard

Were they? Oh WOW! Full coventional/nuclear *** launched as advised!

B-)

Cheers!

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 * RM 1.3 U0414 * In DoubleSpace, no one can hear you scream !

My T1 really gives me the realism (without VR or g forces ofcourse)
but how would we get the need to lean into the corners etc.   Back to
my Quick Shot Joystick I suppose.   I even built my own 'car' out of
wood.   It allows me to sit in a reclining angle for better control.
I could post a photo if anyone is interested.   Anyone else could
build one (I am no handyman) and it only cost me A$70 in materials
(not including T1).

A knowledgable friend says that the 500cc is not so popular in USA (is
he right?) so that might preclude Papryus.

Cheers,

Craig
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