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F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

Byron Forbe

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Byron Forbe » Mon, 05 Jan 1998 04:00:00


> Sorry to get off of F1rs, but I am glad you mentioned the***pit shaking in
> cpr.  I noticed it a while back and just thought I had been playing the game too
> long.  That is a cool feature.

    Same as GP2, especially with a lot of packers.
Byron Liste

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Byron Liste » Mon, 05 Jan 1998 04:00:00


>Da Speed: What IS relevant to a racing sim is the feeling of speed.  I have
a
>system that can run either game just fine with graphics maxed.  Relative to
>other sims, F1 just doesn't make me feel like I'm flying!  I was taking a
>turn at Monza the other day...  I usually focus more on the tach and my
line,
>but I glanced at the speedometer: 100+ MPH!  It felt like I was going
20-30!
>CPR, on the other hand, can make me sweat on an empty track!  I think it

may

I can't comment on CPR, but I got the same feeling with the Demo version of
F1.
Looked great and I was keen to like it.......but when the speedo's showing
300km/h
it felt like I was doing 50km/h....GP2/ICR/Nascar were all much better......

I deleted the demo, after a few goes.....just no sensation of speed, which
as the original
poster says...left me cold....

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S.A.

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by S.A. » Wed, 07 Jan 1998 04:00:00



Don't worry, lots of other people besides just Ubisoft regard it as a
true F1 simulation too.

We are probably playing a different version of F1RS, because entering
grass does not instantly send me out of control. I can still drive the
car straight for some time, but it does affect the driving, just like
it should. Psygnosis F1 had this problem you described, not F1RS.

I can do that in F1RS too.

We must be talking about a different game. I'm talking about Ubisoft
F1RS, you sound like you are talking about Psygnosis F1. ;-)
Psygnosis game had a terrible computer driver AI, F1RS has great AI.
Very competitive, don't try to ram you out of the track like in F1...

Check out the box that you are not playing Psygnosis F1. ;-)

S.A.

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by S.A. » Wed, 07 Jan 1998 04:00:00

On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:07:34 +0100, "Jon Petersson"



>>  Scott, you think a real F1 driver would waste his time with
>>something like F1RS?  Come on!  Gimme a break.
>I would be very surprised to hear that Jacques Villeneuve did *not* own
>F1RS.

I wonder if he has changed "Driver X" to something else in F1RS with
the name editor utilities? ;-) Probably not.
Bruce Kennewel

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Bruce Kennewel » Thu, 08 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Is this feller for real?  What exactly did he buy....F1RS or CART PR?

--
Bruce
(at work)

"Laziness is nothing more than the habit of resting before you get
tired."
(Jules Renard)

Ken Nicols

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Ken Nicols » Thu, 08 Jan 1998 04:00:00


>On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:07:34 +0100, "Jon Petersson"

>>I would be very surprised to hear that Jacques Villeneuve did *not* own
>>F1RS.

Have you noticed in the manual that he has one of his hobbies listed
as "computer games"?

Heehee!

Ken
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Jon Petersso

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Jon Petersso » Thu, 08 Jan 1998 04:00:00


I haven't read the manual much, but it's widely known that he likes computer
games. That's why I'm pretty sure he has F1RS. He can afford it, that's for
sure!
---
Jon Petersson

Byron Forbe

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Byron Forbe » Fri, 09 Jan 1998 04:00:00


> On Sun, 4 Jan 1998 01:07:34 +0100, "Jon Petersson"


> >>  Scott, you think a real F1 driver would waste his time with
> >>something like F1RS?  Come on!  Gimme a break.

> >I would be very surprised to hear that Jacques Villeneuve did *not* own
> >F1RS.

> I wonder if he has changed "Driver X" to something else in F1RS with
> the name editor utilities? ;-) Probably not.

   Nah, his lawyers would sue him if he did that :)
Alis

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Alis » Sat, 10 Jan 1998 04:00:00



Er, excuse me, but Jacques Villeneuve used GP2 to learn several of the
F1 tracks in 1996.  His pole at Spa blew everyone away; no one thought
he would even be near the front for his first race on this challenging
circuit.  He publicly credited this pole to his GP2 experience.

Also, MS claims that Mark Blundell and Mauricio Gugelmin have put in
many laps on CPR, and that Mark went 10 seconds faster than any of them
at CPR's Laguna, despite their hundreds of hours of practice on CPR.

According to Ubi Soft's web site, Renault personnel spent many hours
helping to create F1RS; one of their engineers wrote the physics model.
There are rumors that Jean Alesi was one of the test drivers.

All of the top F1 teams use simulations to develop their cars and try
new ideas out before building real hardware.  These sims may not have
the kind of user interface our retail sims have, but racing teams are
very involved with racing sims, for good reason: they save time and
money.  

Sims can have their downside, too; in 1996, Jacques struggled to get
Patrick Head to allow him to use setups which better suited Jacques'
style but which the sim said were slower.  Once Jacques won the
argument, he began winning poles and races.  I suspect that perhaps the
Williams racing sim got an update after the 1996 season.

As commercial sims evolve, it's not inconceivable that real race drivers
will begin to use them extensively for training; after all, sims have
been used to train airplane pilots for many years.

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Nanker Pheldg

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by Nanker Pheldg » Sat, 10 Jan 1998 04:00:00




> >  Scott, you think a real F1 driver would waste his time with
> >something like F1RS?  Come on!  Gimme a break.

> Er, excuse me, but Jacques Villeneuve used GP2 to learn several of the
> F1 tracks in 1996.  His pole at Spa blew everyone away; no one thought
> he would even be near the front for his first race on this challenging
> circuit.  He publicly credited this pole to his GP2 experience.

Er, I think it was just that one track.  Many of the circuits on GP2 are
too inaccurate to rely on for critical learning such as this.  That
said, I hope he sticks with GP2 for '98 'cause I don't want him anywhere
near a podium.  <G>
RickD20

F1RS LEAVES ME COLD ...........Here's why.....

by RickD20 » Sun, 11 Jan 1998 04:00:00

Well,that explains it-Jean is one of the best (and responsible for one of my
worst hangovers ever) - I just feel sorry he isn't in a Williams or Ferrari in
'98-Love to see him head to head with Villeneuve in the same equipment-I don't
think there would be any competition.
Don't write him off just yet-Williams '99 - you heard it here first.


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