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Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

Jon Van Ginneke

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Jon Van Ginneke » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00




> > Oh-oh... It looks like you're setting yourself up to receive a truckload
> of
> > "TOLD you so!" "NOW you see!" "Didn't I tell you?" posts at the start of
> August
> > Why make yourself so vulnerable? <G>

> No I'm not. If it turns out to be good, then great... But simply claiming
> that it will be good because it is called GP3 is nuts. Once it is released
> it may be fine.

> BTW, the "Best F1 sim for a Tifosi" would be one where a ferrarri
> always won :-)

And one where they made Schumacher good enough to hold DC off!!!!

Just had too....

Jon

Ian

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Ian » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

People used to max the occupancy so that the framerate dropped to such a
level that the game ran really slowly, thus making it incredibly easy to
react to what the car was doing because it was taking longer for everything
to happen.

--
Ian Parker
"Ambition is a poor excuse for not having sense enough to be lazy."

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> >Because of the way that Crammond had historically dealt with Processor
> >Occupancy, I think all of the GP sims he has produced have huge
> >faults. Simply maxing out your Processor Occupancy to get faster
> >lap times is not cool. If GP3 has this um "feature" then it is doomed.

> Wait a moment here... are the laptimes in GP2 depenant on the
> processor used? I know that GP2 run in slowmo when the processor
> occupancy got overloaded, but I never thought it would influence the
> lap times...

> Andre

Andre Warring

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Andre Warring » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00


>People used to max the occupancy so that the framerate dropped to such a
>level that the game ran really slowly, thus making it incredibly easy to
>react to what the car was doing because it was taking longer for everything
>to happen.

Ofcourse, clever boys... Thinking about it, even it something like
that was possible for GPL (thank God not) I don't think it will be
easier to drive faster in GPL. Without the feeling what the car does,
driving must become impossible...

Andre

Jason Mond

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Jason Mond » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Well Papy and Crammond spent 3 years (give or take) on GPL, N3 and GP2.  EA/
ISI had to rush out F1-2000 in less than a year I've heard.  Ok they used the
SCGT engine, but probably spent 90% on graphics, not advancing the multiplayer
and physics so F1-2002 should be great! :-D

Jason.


> And why can't EA release a product like Papy, MGI, or
> Crammond which is solid right out of the box?

> Jon

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Jason Monds
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mas..

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by mas.. » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00


[blushing]
Oh Greg, stop stroking me :-)

Yeah, I whined about it a long time ago.  Glad to see there are a lot of other
whiners now :-)

BTW, I did still enjoy GP2, though nowhere near as much, for its time, as the
original World Circuit (which we had to wait over a year for after the Amiga
release).

Some flight sims have also done this, F18/A Hornet for one.  Not quite as bad
there as in driving sims where it is all (well, mostly) about timing.

Brian Shor

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Brian Shor » Tue, 11 Jul 2000 04:00:00

Hey now, Papy hasnt announced anything with regards to an F1 sim.  Although
DK's comments in the HG interview certainly hint at something :-) I'd like
to see one too... they could have a 2 fer 1 deal... 1 game, with both the
2000 season and the 1976 season :-)

Brian



Mrv

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Mrv » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00

And look at that fine mess Ea did with F1-2000.  They should have never released
such a horrible product.

> Well Papy and Crammond spent 3 years (give or take) on GPL, N3 and GP2.  EA/
> ISI had to rush out F1-2000 in less than a year I've heard.  Ok they used the
> SCGT engine, but probably spent 90% on graphics, not advancing the multiplayer
> and physics so F1-2002 should be great! :-D

> Jason.


> > And why can't EA release a product like Papy, MGI, or
> > Crammond which is solid right out of the box?

> > Jon

> --
> Jason Monds
> http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL)
> http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project
> (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

Ruud van Ga

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Ruud van Ga » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00

On Mon, 10 Jul 2000 18:10:19 -0800, "Brian Short"


>Hey now, Papy hasnt announced anything with regards to an F1 sim.  Although
>DK's comments in the HG interview certainly hint at something :-) I'd like
>to see one too... they could have a 2 fer 1 deal... 1 game, with both the
>2000 season and the 1976 season :-)

They did in fact state that Nascar4 will use the (improved even) GPL
phsyics engine. So that would be nice as well, even though I like F1
more than Nascar (quite a bit).



>> I agree with you there...I for one am expecting to be let down by GP3 for
>> some of the same reasons (I mean it took him till 1999 to put 3d hardware
>> support in?  Nuts...).  But I'm hoping my negativity will be wrong because
>> that will make it all the better...although I'm sure my negativity will
>find
>> the glaring problems. Can't wait to see Papy's F1 sim. :-)

>> Jon

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Jason Mond

Best F1 sim for a Tifosi?

by Jason Mond » Wed, 12 Jul 2000 04:00:00

I've actually had fun with F1-2000.  The multiplayer component could be improved
immensely by having a client/server model and allowing practice/qualifying but for
getting it out so quickly it's not so bad.  I liked the SCGT physics so it was not a
problem for me to purchase F1-2000.

Jason.


> And look at that fine mess Ea did with F1-2000.  They should have never released
> such a horrible product.


> > Well Papy and Crammond spent 3 years (give or take) on GPL, N3 and GP2.  EA/
> > ISI had to rush out F1-2000 in less than a year I've heard.  Ok they used the
> > SCGT engine, but probably spent 90% on graphics, not advancing the multiplayer
> > and physics so F1-2002 should be great! :-D

> > Jason.


> > > And why can't EA release a product like Papy, MGI, or
> > > Crammond which is solid right out of the box?

> > > Jon

> > --
> > Jason Monds
> > http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL)
> > http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project
> > (Please remove 'no extra spork' when replying)

--
Jason Monds
http://www.proracingclub.com - Pro Racing Club! (N3, GPL)
http://members.home.net/stuff.mondsj/csp - Car Sim Project
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