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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

SRO News Flash! Image Space, Inc. has changed their minds and will
include a***pit view for the release of PSCR! No word as to whether
this will get into the demo, and the change may only be one generic
dashboard, rather each specific vehicle (although ISI said they would
look into it).

ISI said this was based on the amount of mail received from people
reading SRO's article [ http://www.racesimcentral.net/] and writing them
that they weren't happy about the lack of an in-car view. Nobody at ISI
uses it, and it surpised them to find how many people would want this
feature.

Thanks folks, for helping make a change in what looks to be a great
sim! =)

Cheers!

Marc

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by **doktor** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Great!!

There you go... we DO have a say in games(sims)... it's good to see a
company like SLI listen to the potential market.

Congrats, everyone who wrote!

doktorB

>SRO News Flash! Image Space, Inc. has changed their minds and will
>include a***pit view for the release of PSCR! No word as to whether
>this will get into the demo, and the change may only be one generic
>dashboard, rather each specific vehicle (although ISI said they would
>look into it).

by **Paul Jone** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Well, thank you Marc for all your efforts,
Paul

> SRO News Flash! Image Space, Inc. has changed their minds and will
> include a***pit view for the release of PSCR! No word as to whether
> this will get into the demo, and the change may only be one generic
> dashboard, rather each specific vehicle (although ISI said they would
> look into it).

> ISI said this was based on the amount of mail received from people
> reading SRO's article [ http://www.racesimcentral.net/] and writing them
> that they weren't happy about the lack of an in-car view. Nobody at ISI
> uses it, and it surpised them to find how many people would want this
> feature.

> Thanks folks, for helping make a change in what looks to be a great
> sim! =)

> Cheers!

> Marc

> --
> Marc J. Nelson
> SimRacing Online - http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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by **Mike Dun** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

What??? I wanted that bumper cam view!! Dam simplayers always wanting a in car view...that just ruined the game! I wanted to pretend
I was a bumper cam the hole day and feel the car physics from that view..Damm you Marc Nelson you have caused all of this.<G>

LOL........

Thank god they changed their decision..I could see it getting slamed hard core for not providing a in car.

Mike

by **Tim Deatherag** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Thanks Marc !

I'm not a big potential PSCR fan but it's nice to know that us hard core
simmers have a voice with some of these companies. SRO is definitely a
leader in the Sim internet community !

Tim A. Deatherage

"Admitted Sim ***"

>SRO News Flash! Image Space, Inc. has changed their minds and will
>include a***pit view for the release of PSCR! No word as to whether
>this will get into the demo, and the change may only be one generic
>dashboard, rather each specific vehicle (although ISI said they would
>look into it).

>ISI said this was based on the amount of mail received from people
>reading SRO's article [ http://www.racesimcentral.net/] and writing them
>that they weren't happy about the lack of an in-car view. Nobody at ISI
>uses it, and it surpised them to find how many people would want this
>feature.

>Thanks folks, for helping make a change in what looks to be a great
>sim! =)

>Cheers!

>Marc

>--
>Marc J. Nelson
>SimRacing Online - http://www.racesimcentral.net/

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by **jlha..** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Power to the press!. I will consider this sim now.

Thanks, Mark

> SRO News Flash! Image Space, Inc. has changed their minds and will
> include a***pit view for the release of PSCR!
> ISI said this was based on the amount of mail received from people
> reading SRO's article [ http://www.racesimcentral.net/]

by **Marc J. Nelso** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Not to worry, Mike...Your lame-ass arcade features will be there too, and I guess I'll have to drop by to show you where they are - You
can pretend to be a real-arcade-racer once the sim is released (the only thing you can drive is me nuts!)...Guess I'll have to draw you
a road map of the tracks as well? - Hint: Nearly as many rights as there are lefts, with a few short straights thrown in for good
measure. ;)

Doh!

> What??? I wanted that bumper cam view!! Dam simplayers always wanting a in car view...that just ruined the game! I wanted to pretend
> I was a bumper cam the hole day and feel the car physics from that view..Damm you Marc Nelson you have caused all of this.<G>

> LOL........

> Thank god they changed their decision..I could see it getting slamed hard core for not providing a in car.

> Mike

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by **Mike Dun** » Wed, 04 Nov 1998 04:00:00

LOLROTF

Mike

by **Tim Deatherag** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

FWIW, I got hooked on the Viper demo last night (using the simulation mode
and both the in car view and the front bumper view)

Now, I think that PSCR might be fun and worth buying.....therefore when will
the demo be released and when is the scheduled release of the game/Sim?

Tim A. Deatherage

"Admitted Sim ***"

>Wow! Thanks Tim! While I'm glad you think of us as a sim-leader, I should
>point out that Art Axelrad probably had a few things to say to ISI<g>, and
>that the SRO site is intended as a platform from which to give us all more
>credibility, rather than someone simply saying "oh, you play games?"

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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

Hi Tim,

Viper's a good one for sure, and I look forward to looking into the files - that
is, if I can find the time! =P

I talked with ISI yesterday, and they're reworking the demo to include all (or
most) of the changes in the final...Not sure if the in-car view will make it in
(as per Gjon's message - apparently e-mail bombed to the whole sim
community<g>), but most of the bugs will be worked out. Gjon said it's coming
along quite well, and he appreciates all the feedback.

Now all we need to do is bug the hell outta' EAI for Trans-Am Racing...Man, what
a (sim) year - Someone pinch me!

Cheers!

Marc

> FWIW, I got hooked on the Viper demo last night (using the simulation mode
> and both the in car view and the front bumper view)

> Now, I think that PSCR might be fun and worth buying.....therefore when will
> the demo be released and when is the scheduled release of the game/Sim?

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by **Marc J. Nelso** » Thu, 05 Nov 1998 04:00:00

This is their personal preference to drive this way. The nature of code monkeys
is that they have a tendency to bury themselves into their work, and may not think
(or realize) what a so-called die hard wants.

One thing is apparent, that they listened to to the feedback sent, and reevaluated
PSCR. Any way you slice it, it's a good thing, and one I wouldn't knock.

Cheers!

Marc

> Good news, the***pit view is in. Bad news, the folks at ISI are -
> allegedly - building a superb, realistic sim yet they don't want to use a
>***pit view themselves. Sorry, but this does NOT sound like an outfit
> which are interested in producing realistic sims (by modern standards of
> realism). The proof of the pudding is in the eating but I've learnt the
> hard way in the past that unless "sims" are produced by pretty hard core
> realism fans then they tend to be fatally flawed :(

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by **Neil Yeatma** » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00

> Good news, the***pit view is in. Bad news, the folks at ISI are -
> allegedly - building a superb, realistic sim yet they don't want to use a
>***pit view themselves. Sorry, but this does NOT sound like an outfit
> which are interested in producing realistic sims (by modern standards of
> realism). The proof of the pudding is in the eating but I've learnt the
> hard way in the past that unless "sims" are produced by pretty hard core
> realism fans then they tend to be fatally flawed :(

Well...Papyrus guys don't like using steering wheels...they (generally,
I hear) prefer Joystick and Pedals...does that make GPL fatally flawed?

Give it a chance...it could be a good game...the screenshots are
certainly tantalizing...

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Neil Yeatman
Ajax, Ontario, CANADA

by **Marc J. Nelso** » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00

> But I'm fed up with seeing "sims" hyped up only for them to fall well short
> of the expectations raised. ATM it looks 50/50 that this is just going to
> be another such case :(

Good point, but it seems that PSCR may be beyond the 50% mark, having received a
thumbs-up from an avid sim-head (Art Axelrad). Of course, the proof's in the pudding,
and we can all decide once the demo's been released...or at least get an idea of what's
to come. Like some, I hope this isn't just another CPR.

Cheers!

Marc

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by **Ronald Stoeh** » Fri, 06 Nov 1998 04:00:00

snip
> Well...Papyrus guys don't like using steering wheels...they (generally,
> I hear) prefer Joystick and Pedals...does that make GPL fatally flawed?

> Give it a chance...it could be a good game...the screenshots are
> certainly tantalizing...

Oh, you don't trust ANY of the experienced guys on this ng praising this
sim? It IS a great sim. You might not like the high difficulty, but that
doesn't make it a bad or mediocre game.

l8er
ronny

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