rec.autos.simulators

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

Cyril M

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Cyril M » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:39:49

While I'm continuing my hunt for a copy of GPL, I'm just starting to wonder.

I've never had a wheel, (FF or not) and I was just thinking is it a
mandatory piece of hardware in order to stay competitive in online games,
for example.

Mike Donnelly J

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Mike Donnelly J » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 06:52:18

Absolutely!!!  No other word to use.

> While I'm continuing my hunt for a copy of GPL, I'm just starting to wonder.

> I've never had a wheel, (FF or not) and I was just thinking is it a
> mandatory piece of hardware in order to stay competitive in online games,
> for example.

Power Post 20

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Power Post 20 » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 07:09:40

I've heard some people are fast with a joystisk, but I haven't tried
it.



Jag

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Jag » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:02:43


thus spoke:

I see you are in Canada. Do you have an Office Place in Kingston? They
always have copies of GPL in stock for about $25.00 CAD (at least the
one I go to here in Toronto does). I used to play Nascar1 and Indycar1
with a CH Pro joystick, and while it was doable and competitive, a
wheel just adds a lot more to the immersion factor for me.
--
Jagg

Larr

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Larr » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:16:35

I consider it mandatory.

Personally, I'd like to see a "No Wheelie, No Joinie" option when hosting
races :)

-Larry


Don Burnett

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Don Burnett » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 08:53:58

If your anywhere near serious about sim racing, whether it be offline or
online, get yourself a wheel. You'll wonder how you ever got along without
it.

--
Don Burnette


Cyril M

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Cyril M » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 10:00:16

Which Office Place in Toronto are you referring to?  Please, oh please tell
me, hehehehe...i'm desparate for some real sims. =P
Jag

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Jag » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:36:54


thus spoke:

Well, it's a bit on the outskirts of Toronto, closer to Kingston
though. Whitby, just off Thickson on Victoria. You don't have an
Office Place in Kingston?
--
Jagg

Cyril M

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Cyril M » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 13:39:29

We have a staples..we don't ahve a Office place.  Well, at least not
reachable on foot anyhow.
Ville V Sinkk

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Ville V Sinkk » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 16:59:42


> I consider it mandatory.
> Personally, I'd like to see a "No Wheelie, No Joinie" option when hosting
> races :)

Well, that would be sad, because a wheel is _not_ mandatory for the majority
of racing sims, GPL included. There's nothing you can do with a wheel that
you can't do with a stick.

+Cinquo [GPLRank 27.14]

Cyril M

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Cyril M » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 17:10:42

Great..this keyboard racer feels soooooooooo bad. =P
Disgruntled Go

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Disgruntled Go » Wed, 14 Feb 2001 18:46:36



Yes!

That said, if you only planned to race against AI  (and not play GPL),
you might be able to use a joystick or even a good gamepad - even the
keyboard! (i've played GP2 with the keyboard, and with steering help
on could drive quite well). That said, once you use a wheel, you'll
never, ever be able to sim race without one, try as hard as you
like...

DG

Jag

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Jag » Thu, 15 Feb 2001 03:42:10


thus spoke:

I see Office Place does do shopping online, but they don't list
software (just office stuff). Maybe give them a call and see if they
will ship it to you.
--
Jagg

Saturn S. Padu

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Saturn S. Padu » Thu, 15 Feb 2001 05:46:01



Both Chips and Bits and Compuexpert have GPL, albeit for $20.00. If
you don't want to spend that much, you'll find at least a dozen
auction hits for GPL on Ebay.  

You can race online with a joystick, but I don't think you will have
the fine degree of control that a wheel allows...unless your hands are
rock-solid steady. And not just *any* wheel, a good, solidly
constructed wheel that holds it's calibration, doesn't spike and has
smooth resistance throughout its arc. The first time I played GPL was
with a problematic TM Grand Prix wheel (my second after the lousy TM
T2) and I thought at the time the game was unplayable. It wasn't until
I played GPL again on my roomate's wheel, a more reliable Saitek, did
I discover what a huge difference in gameplay a quality wheel makes.
I mean, it was the difference between driving to survive the track and
opponents and actually driving to *race*...

Since then I've been extremely selective and wary about wheel
purchases...I'm currently on a MS USB Precision and it works like a
champ. And it's more enjoyable than racing with a stick/keyboard will
ever be.

Ambulate

Is a wheel a must for sims nowadays?

by Ambulate » Thu, 15 Feb 2001 10:07:36

I think you could get pretty decent at GPL with a joystick, but NOT without
pedals!  Pedals are a must in GPL because much of your steering is done with
throttle and brake.  A wheel and pedals are still the best solution though.

--
Chris "Ambulater" Lee
"Don't Bother Running.........You'll Just Die Tired."
Reviews at www.sim-arena.com



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