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Is the fact that you sent your message twice an indicator of your ability to
handle machines with precision?
The fact is that there are few women in motorsports because the vast
majority of women have absolutely no interest in participating. Except for a
tiny handful of masculine women or insecure women with something to prove,
they simply lack the aggressiveness and drive of us beastly men.
Political correctness in ANY sport, or in ANY organization, for that matter,
absolutely disgusts me. When, oh when (wringing hands) will we have a black
NASCAR driver? Give me a break! Those with enough drive and enough talent
will always make their way in the world. Any "man" who bends over backwards
to accommodate women or minorities to alleviate personal guilt for being a
man is not a man at all.
Care to try Sumo wrestling?
So Kyle Petty won 8 Cup races due to his name?
KenB
I guess you're talking about America then. By accident we had a
discussion about this on rscnet.
Apart from some reputedly very fast ladies in the 1920's/30's, there's
of course the arguably greatest female driver of all time:
Michele Mouton.
Around 1983 she was THIS close to winning the World Rally Championship.
Only lost it by a hair's breadth and by some bad luck (her father died
the night before the final race.. 8( ) It's a shame not even the
females seem to know who she is and what she achieved. In my book, she
is definite proof that women could win in racing.
Of course, if you're male and happen to have to compete in GPL in a race
against Rachel Turner you ain't got much of a chance anyway ;)
Regards, Rudy
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Kyle Petty has shown throughout his life that racing plays second fiddle,
music, bikes and now Victory Junction all got more of his attention than his
desire to improve his racecraft. If he really cared about being a racer he
likely would have many more than 8 feeble wins in 20+ years.
Mitch
> KenB
I feel that he's had those 20 years of trying because he has the money to do
so. Dick Trickle ran for as long as he could afford to, and was no threat to
win on any given day.
Granted, Kyle has the money(resources), and had the opening because he's a
Petty, but that's a different argument.
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Every hear of Sarah Fisher? Shes'racing at Indianapolis this month.
There were 3 women in the field for the Craftsmen Truck Series race at
Mansfield
>Mitch
As to women, stock car racing hasn't had a lot of women over the years
(although there were more in the very early years than recently), open
wheel series are beginning to see a number of women moving up through
the ranks. Depending on your view of the IRL there is at least one
female in the bigs at the moment - Sarah Fisher, and the 'great female
hope' of the moment is Danica Patrick. Her projected career path is
geared toward F1 though, so she could become the *next* woman to win a
F1 race and most Americans wouldn't have any clue as to who she is -
even within racing circles.
The last female I recall seeing in NASCAR was Patty Moise in the BGN
series a number of years ago. The biggest knock on her was that she
couldn't win. Which is a performance issue and has stopped many male
drivers from advancing as well. There was a woman in the CTS a while
back. Problem for her was that her sponsor became so overwhelmed with
orders after sponsoring her, they couldn't keep up and went out of
business.... Too bad that another sponsor with some foresight didn't
step in...
ARCA had a female racer a few years back. I forgot who she's married
to, but she put her racing career on hold to start a family and has
had a hard time coming back.
I think women are advancing in racing, but, as always (and let it
never change) performance is a key (critical) issue. In racing, the
saying "winning isn't everything, it's the only thing" couldn't be
more true.
I'd say racing is definitely one arena in which men and women can
compete on an even playing field.
Mike
>> Sure just what racing needs. Politically correct bullshit like every
>other
>> part of society. If you have talent racing then sure a women can race
>(the
>> closest Ive seen is the girl from the IRL), till then stfu and watch like
>> the rest of us. The idea that some chick gets a ride for no reason other
>> than she's a chick disgusts me. Dont feel lonely though I feel the same
>way
>> about men. Nascar is filled with no talent drivers that get to race week
>in
>> and week out because of a name (Kyle Petty comes to mind). Nascar is also
>> determined to have a black guy race, regardless of skill, again this
>> disgusts me. When someone comes along that has some talent it shouldnt
>> matter what gender or color said individual is. Shoving someone down our
>> throat because of political correctness just plain pisses me off...
>I was watching this black guy racing motocross last year, I've forgotten his
>name(Stewart?), but he was superb. Just blew everybody else off the track.
>Then he was injured for quite some time and lost the chance of winning the
>championship outright, but when he returned to racing he carried on where he
>left off. Winning, winning and winning some more ! I don't know what's
>happened to him as AMA motocross hasn't been on the T.V. here for some time.
>He was on another level to all the other riders out there.
>He must have impressed the right people from a very early age. I think he's
>still only a ***ager.
>Well, Melissa, I would consider taking you seriously if you had learned to
>write and spell.
>Is the fact that you sent your message twice an indicator of your ability to
>handle machines with precision?
>The fact is that there are few women in motorsports because the vast
>majority of women have absolutely no interest in participating. Except for a
>tiny handful of masculine women or insecure women with something to prove,
>they simply lack the aggressiveness and drive of us beastly men.
>Political correctness in ANY sport, or in ANY organization, for that matter,
>absolutely disgusts me. When, oh when (wringing hands) will we have a black
>NASCAR driver? Give me a break! Those with enough drive and enough talent
>will always make their way in the world. Any "man" who bends over backwards
>to accommodate women or minorities to alleviate personal guilt for being a
>man is not a man at all.
>> I am going to be racing a quad4 car this summer at whipcity in
>> massachusets. there should be more women in racing. i know like 3girls
>> that race a t whipcity and the only women that i know of that i hear
>> about all the time is Shilrley Muldowney.. she is the olny women in
>> racing that was inducted to the international motorsports hall of
>> fame! I have never heard about any another women... Men should get
>> over the fact that women can handle a mans sport.. sorry guyz but u
>> will get beat bye a girl. the cars don't know the difference if its a
>> female or a man racing it.. i think that guys should give the women
>> that are tryin a mans sport more credit. they wouldn;t be in the sport
>> if they couldn't handle it.
Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.com
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm
>>Date: 5/17/2004 5:02 PM Central Daylight Time
>>Well, Melissa, I would consider taking you seriously if you had learned to
>>write and spell.
>>Is the fact that you sent your message twice an indicator of your ability to
>>handle machines with precision?
>>The fact is that there are few women in motorsports because the vast
>>majority of women have absolutely no interest in participating. Except for a
>>tiny handful of masculine women or insecure women with something to prove,
>>they simply lack the aggressiveness and drive of us beastly men.
>>Political correctness in ANY sport, or in ANY organization, for that matter,
>>absolutely disgusts me. When, oh when (wringing hands) will we have a black
>>NASCAR driver? Give me a break! Those with enough drive and enough talent
>>will always make their way in the world. Any "man" who bends over backwards
>>to accommodate women or minorities to alleviate personal guilt for being a
>>man is not a man at all.
>>> I am going to be racing a quad4 car this summer at whipcity in
>>> massachusets. there should be more women in racing. i know like 3girls
>>> that race a t whipcity and the only women that i know of that i hear
>>> about all the time is Shilrley Muldowney.. she is the olny women in
>>> racing that was inducted to the international motorsports hall of
>>> fame! I have never heard about any another women... Men should get
>>> over the fact that women can handle a mans sport.. sorry guyz but u
>>> will get beat bye a girl. the cars don't know the difference if its a
>>> female or a man racing it.. i think that guys should give the women
>>> that are tryin a mans sport more credit. they wouldn;t be in the sport
>>> if they couldn't handle it.
>I'd like to introduce you to my sister. And watch the encounter that ensues
>in
>person. Say again?
>Todd Wasson
>Racing Software
>http://PerformanceSimulations.com
>http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm
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Todd Wasson
Racing Software
http://PerformanceSimulations.com
http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm
> >I'd like to introduce you to my sister. And watch the encounter that
ensues
> >in
> >person. Say again?
> >Todd Wasson
> >Racing Software
> >http://PerformanceSimulations.com
> >http://performancesimulations.com/scnshot4.htm
> Forget this post. I misunderstood and didn't read the whole thing before
> posting. Defensive reaction.
> <searching for a way to delete any posts made in the past 20 minutes or
so....>
