rec.autos.simulators

>The award is dead-on, if you ask me.  DTR is fun, challenging to the diehard
>sim racer, and accessible to the sim racing novice -- things that VERY few
>other racing SIMS have accomplished.  

>There ar eseveral passable bike sims, but only one dirt racing sim. RC2000
>wasn't even considered, and while not certain, I doubt it will be a big hit
>in the US- and since that's where we're based, that has to be taken into
>account.

> RC2000 isn't even available here in the U.S. yet, so that probably has
> some effect on it's American popularity, but reading your Press Release
> you say: "In choosing this year's winner, Powersims.com's staff considered
> all new racing sims released during the 1999 calendar year."

> Nowhere does it say that you aren't going to consider any sims that you
> "doubt it will be a big hit in the US".

> Maybe you should rename your "1999 Sim of the Year" Award to the
> "1999 American Sim of the Year Award"

> >There ar eseveral passable bike sims, but only one dirt racing sim.
RC2000
> >wasn't even considered, and while not certain, I doubt it will be a big
hit
> >in the US- and since that's where we're based, that has to be taken into
> >account.

> RC2000 isn't even available here in the U.S. yet, so that probably has
> some effect on it's American popularity, but reading your Press Release
> you say: "In choosing this year's winner, Powersims.com's staff considered
> all new racing sims released during the 1999 calendar year."

> Nowhere does it say that you aren't going to consider any sims that you
> "doubt it will be a big hit in the US".

> Maybe you should rename your "1999 Sim of the Year" Award to the
> "1999 American Sim of the Year Award"

> Maybe A.J. Foyt will volunteer to present the award if there's no chance
> of considering any furriners.

> When I think about it, considering only titles likely to be popular here
> in the U.S. would actually mean that GPL probably would not even make your
> consideration list since it wasn't very popular here in the U.S. kind of
makes
> you wonder....

> Seeyas on the track.

> --John (Joao) Silva

> GPL Ferrari driver.
> Powerslide Racing Team  - GMSS  League F1 division.
> Rossi Razzi Racing Team - IGPLC League F2 division.

>I was explaining MY OWN personal reasons for voting the way I did- not
>making amy comment on the policies of Powersims. The context was that
>Rallying is not popular here, and I have no interest in it, so it wouldn't
>recieve much notice from me personally. There are probably some of the
>others at Powersims who feel differently, but I can't speak for them.
>I could have worded that better, I suppose- but the fact that DTR is an
>Australian import sort of blows the whole American- only thing out of the
>water, don't you think? And the fact that the art for N3 and Legends was
>done in Russia? Or that GP500 was considered, even though it hasn't had a US
>release?

> >I was explaining MY OWN personal reasons for voting the way I did- not
> >making amy comment on the policies of Powersims. The context was that
> >Rallying is not popular here, and I have no interest in it, so it
wouldn't
> >recieve much notice from me personally. There are probably some of the
> >others at Powersims who feel differently, but I can't speak for them.
> >I could have worded that better, I suppose- but the fact that DTR is an
> >Australian import sort of blows the whole American- only thing out of the
> >water, don't you think? And the fact that the art for N3 and Legends was
> >done in Russia? Or that GP500 was considered, even though it hasn't had a
US
> >release?

> I assumed you were a representing powersims.com my apologies if my
> assumption was in error, I guess maybe you just hit a sore spot with me
with
> your comment about what is "popular" here in the U.S. as a consideration
> for what should be in the running for sim of the year.

> I haven't tried DTR or GP500 so I can't really compare them to RC2000 or
> even GPL, nor did I know that they were not American made sims or, but
> as a longtime F1 fan (and WRC Rally fan) here in the U.S. where most
people
> don't even know these wonderful auto sports exist, I've spent my share of
time
> arguing with stick and ball fans and even left turn racing-only fans
(NASCAR)
> the merit of F1 and Rally (and even CART) as exciting "sports".

> I automatically get touchy when someone tries to use American popularity
as
> a judgement of whether something is good or not, there are plenty of great
> sports that most Americans have never heard of, but this should not mean
> that the opinion of the rest of the world doesn't count, after all isn't
the
> U.S. the home of the Baseball "World Series" with competing teams limited
> to only American Baseball teams, I've always thought that pretty strange,
> luckily Speedvision is becoming more widely available and more and more
> Americans are becoming aware of other types of exciting motorsports
besides
> NASCAR.

> I guess it makes a bit more sense now knowing you were speaking for
yourself
> and not Powersims as a whole my apologies if my response was a bit
defensive.

> Seeyas on the track.

> --John (Joao) Silva

> GPL Ferrari driver.
> Powerslide Racing Team  - GMSS  League F1 division.
> Rossi Razzi Racing Team - IGPLC League F2 division.

> >Joao,

> >I apologize, but I explained this previously in another post and the hint
of
> >arrogance in your post I feel was uncalled for.

> >We did not consider Rally Championship 2000 because it has not been
released
> >here in the United States.  How do you expect the staff of PowerSims to
vote
> >for a sim that has not even been released here in the United States?  I
> >personally am not prejudice against Rally... I watch it quite a bit on
> >SpeedVision and enjoy it greatly!

> >Believe me, you would not want us voting on the basis of the Demo...  if
we
> >did, Rally Championship would not even be mentioned.

> >Until Rally Championship 2000 is released in the US and me and my staff
can
> >get a copy and evaluate it, I can hardly vote for the title in the Sim of
> >the Year award.

> >It would be like me voting for World Sports Car based on the screenshots
> ><VBG>

> >The Sim of the Year Award was voted on by the staff of PowerSims.com.  It
is
> >in no way based on sales volume.  If we based a determination on that
> >criteria, where would that have left GPL if it were in the running?

> >Scott
> >PA-Scott
> >PowerSims.com

> Hi Scott,

> Yes I agree with you, I apologize for my knee-jerk response, Scott Moore's
> post hit one of my sensitive nerves about American popularity as a
criteria
> for whether a sport is a valid sport or not. (I've had more than a few
> arguments with Americans who don't consider "auto racing" a sport at all,
when
> compared to Baseball and Football just because it isn't as popular)

> Scott Moore's post makes more sense when put in the context that it was
his
> personal opinion regarding his vote and not the criteria used to judge the
> sim of the year award.

> And yes, unfortunaltely RC2000 is not available here in the U.S. yet, I
> ordered my copy from the U.K. (unfortunately even if it was available, it
only
> becomes great once patched and the settings in the ral.cfg file are
tweaked to
> provide a more simulation-like feel as opposed to the default arcade-like
> handling without tweaks). I'm afraid it probably would not do to well in
your
> voting in default form, however once tweaked it proves to be a quite fun
> rally sim.

> Thanks for clearing that up and apologies for my defensiveness.

> Seeyas on the track.

> --John (Joao) Silva

> GPL Ferrari driver.
> Powerslide Racing Team  - GMSS  League F1 division.
> Rossi Razzi Racing Team - IGPLC League F2 division.

> So you're saying that RC2000 could be the best sim ever made for the PC,
> but because you can't get a copy of it, it's DQ'ed?  So DTR is actually
> just the best sim of 1999 that you played.  Hmmm...from what I've been
> reading RC2000 would have given DTR a big-time run for it's money.  Too
bad
> it didn't get the chance.
> --
> -Brett
> Goodbye Greg Moore 1975-1999
> Go COLTS!
> Go HOOSIERS!
> SilentBrett on AOLIM
> Bob and Tom, you guys rock...but Chick and Kristy rule!
> Tony and Jeff George...two of the biggest Jackasses Indy has ever
produced.
> Go Jacques Villeneuve (1997 Formula One World Champion) and BAR!

> > For everyone who asked...

> > Rally Championship 2000 was not considered because it has not been
> released
> > in the United States yet.  Blah blah blah...

> Well lets put it this way...   How can something win an award if it's
> generally unavailable to those who are voting and evaluating??  NASCAR 4 is
> going to be great so Im told.  I guess I should vote for it regardless if
> its available or not right?  WSC Looks awesome in screenshots.. guess maybe
> I should have voted for it?  There might be some sim sitting in some
> developers ba***t that has photo realism with the greatest physics in the
> world.   He tells me so, even though the DEMO feels like Pole Position with
> updated graphics.   So I should vote for it because he and his best friend
> told me it was great right?  Regardless if I have ever been able to see it
> or test it????

> DTR won because it was the best sim of 1999 that was released and AVAILABLE
> TO BE EVALUATED by our staff.

> LOL... I can't believe this is that hard a concept to grasp?

> Scott
> PA-Scott
> PowerSims.com

> I automatically get touchy when someone tries to use American popularity as
> a judgement of whether something is good or not, there are plenty of great
> sports that most Americans have never heard of, but this should not mean
> that the opinion of the rest of the world doesn't count, after all isn't the
> U.S. the home of the Baseball "World Series" with competing teams limited
> to only American Baseball teams, I've always thought that pretty strange,