Far Kurnell! What a load of complete bullshit! A bunch of people get
together to create a centralized site for sim racing leauges, and nothing
more, and some bunch of bozos somehow think they're trying to take over
everything somehow. Just exactly how in the *** are they going to do that
***wit? Try to make it mean something to be human in future if it's not too
much trouble!
A group of dedicated people giving up their own time to help fellow sim
racers and provide useful stats and league summaries is another matter and
another positive aspect of the sim community.
I just think there is some naivity in producing a white paper with comments
such as:
Official national or world championships
It will present itself as the "face" of sim-racing
it will create the base for sponsored leagues and paid drivers as well as
securing sim-racings future
Consolidation of sim-racing into one body
Landmark in forming first organizing body for sim-sport
Once achieved, prizes for drivers will become a realityand the producers of
simulations will have no choice but to consult with its core market FILSCA
and its members
Which is significantly more than "A bunch of people get together to create a
centralized site for sim racing leauges, and nothing more" whatever spin you
put on it...
Cheers
Tony
So what's the length of the term of FILSCA president? Are there an
annual election for officers from the league reps or is it a
president-for-life kind of thing?
Who decides if a league is eligible to join?
There are lots of items like this about the filsca structure that
aren't out on the public side of the forum, the answers might be beyond
reproach but my point is we don't know.
2-3 times I've sent email requesting info about joining for the leagues
I run/help and I've got no response, it could be just a coincidence
that I've also posted (constructive I think) criticisms in their forums
(which disappeared), maybe they were just bad email weeks.
Lots of issues raised, so let's start with the most obvious one:
Art, I don't know where you have sent leagues requests to - surely they did
not end in
my mailbox.
And there is no connection whatsoever to your posts which did not disappear.
The
forum had been reopened in January 2004, and the public posts from the
period 2001-
02 had been moved to read-only archive. Just go to "Old forums" at the
bottom.
However, posts of about 3 months were lost due to backup failure.
Cheers
Christoph
Head of the FILSCA Board
I guess the part that makes me wonder is that those rules aren't posted
on the public side of the site. I can't see the harm myself.
I think the idea of a sanctioning body isn't a bad thing. It would be
nice to know that the next new track released met a minimum
quality/graphic standard (ie no invisible walls, no frame sucking
blimps)or a new mod needed a certain minimum spec. That's something
that a sanctioning body could do in a more consistant manner then is
happening now and it would provide a target for the developers.
I don't think it's too much more of a leap from there then to hosting
the "filsca certified" version of the track.
FILSCA aims of unifying the sim community and using it as a basis for
competing for the FPS money stakes just hasn't been realised simply because
it is a niche in comparison and despite a lot of effort by a few there just
isn't the sustainable mass to drive it forward. The relative lack of content
on the FILSCA site is testament to that. Therefore the end result is a very
watered down but nonetheless useful set of tools for leagues.
All IMHO of course :)
Cheers
Tony
> Yep, you know of any sanctioning body that's not? If it wasn't who
> would need one?
For all the good intentions clubs run by its members never seem to achieve
much because it lacks leadership, the motivation to perform for those
reliant upon you and the direction is unclear. Electing an enigmatic leader
with a mandate and enduring the pain until the next coup or election after
he has gone clinically insane is the only way forward!
Alternatively conclude that a real sanctioning body for sim racing is going
to be a thankless task with no end gain and a political struggle to boot and
settle for a nice cup of tea and an iced bun in front of the TV...
Cheers
Tony
> > >Except it would be a shed load of work.
> > Yep, you know of any sanctioning body that's not? If it wasn't who
> > would need one?
> In an admittedly obscure way that was my point. FILSCA provides the tools
> for league admins rather than fulfilling the role of a sanctioning body.
> For all the good intentions clubs run by its members never seem to achieve
> much because it lacks leadership, the motivation to perform for those
> reliant upon you and the direction is unclear. Electing an enigmatic
leader
> with a mandate and enduring the pain until the next coup or election after
> he has gone clinically insane is the only way forward!
> Alternatively conclude that a real sanctioning body for sim racing is
going
> to be a thankless task with no end gain and a political struggle to boot
and
> settle for a nice cup of tea and an iced bun in front of the TV...
> Cheers
> Tony
> Also announcing FILSCA as the first world sanctioning body for sim racing
> suggests some authority and from where?
--
-- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard>
-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez
Corporation - helping America into the New World...
> > Also announcing FILSCA as the first world sanctioning body for sim
racing
> > suggests some authority and from where?
> They probably are either 1) extremely naive or 2) never heard of the NROS
> and it's total failure.
Well, since GPL (old sim with old cars with little mass appeal to the
*** eye) and Nascar (little world wide appeal and not even a great deal of
appeal to many yanks) are the only real online sims to date, I'd put this
down to most of the reason for what you say about a lack of widespread
interest and participation in sim racing. Look at how pitiful the situation
is - 2005 and no multi sim for F1, GTP or Champ Cars. If someone had told me
this would be the case back in 1998 I'd have laughed at them.
Now if anyone wants to know who's screwing the sim racing community, no
doubt the answer is in the greedy arseholes representing these sports that
want an arm and a leg for licencing that shouldn't even need to be paid at
all. Anyone looking for a good *** theory need look no further than
this.
But that's a catch-22, to market to new buyers the manufacturors feel
they need a brand name (you more or less implied branding is important
yourself), therefore the licence holders have something that is in
demand...
If you were new to sim racing and you were walking past a retail shop
window would you honestly buy something called "Generic Racer"?
LFS has avoided this by having generic looking cars and not selling
thru retail channels but they're also never likely to sell as many
copies as any of the shrinkwrap crowd (it's not like grand dad is going
to download a copy for xmas). I suspect if LFS ever did get
successful and they had a car called a Maclaren F1 (mac instead of mc)
racing against the "Farrari" Enzo they'd be hearing from Ron Denis's &
Fiat's lawyers fairly quickly.
All true. But why should they have a say in who makes a computer
sim/game based on their racing series? Why should they be able to charge for
that? It's a mis use of law! They are supplying nothing - no work on their
part. And these sims/games are good advertising for them also. The only
result of this is that these arseholes, and the lawyers/judges, make a
killing for doing sweet *** all. Developers waste resorces on this and we
pay more for less - that's completely ***ed!
How long do you suppose it takes the jeans & t-shirt wearing developors
to convince the 3 peice suit corporate crowd speak the same language.
Imagine if say the West Bros. walked into Ford HQ... ;)
